some progress on the 850

souNdguy

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ok.. so got off work early today.. wasn't busy.. decided to go beat on the old tractor.

pulled the trailer around and backed it up so the trailer was right in front of the bay door. i like to do my initial servicing of my new tractors while still on the trailer so i can move them around and get all around and under them easier.

first order of business was repalcing the lower radiator hose that was also rubbing the ps belt.. took the hose off in pieces.. it was pieced together from 2 hoses and had pvc fittings inside of it!!

oem hose didn't fit good due to the belt, so I opted for a 25" flex hose ( 1.5" id ) and an extra rad clamp. this hose had a spring so it did not kink off as well. at the place of the highest bend near the belt I added a hose clamp that makde the hose stay round and more open vs trying to flatten and close... repair looks decent.. and the hose doesn't stick out any past the loader frame that made it oh-so- easy (not ) to work on.

next I pulle dthe trans detents and springs and replaced 3rd. it was worn a lil as they all were. new spring was longer / stiffer. 3rd feels like it locks in better now.. oh yeah.. spring story. when I pulle dthe plastic baggie open, spring shot of into my shop and I spent 5 minutes with a flashlight trying to find it.. landed UNDER the rider lawnmower..

started looking at the hoses. about half of them have been repalced in the last decade.. but 5 of them look scarry.. no rubber left.. and rusty wire braid, chaffed in some areas and bulgeing!

so, I rummaged around my spares box and came up with 3 of the hoses I needed, all bew of course, leftovers from other projects. so headed to tsc to get more hoses as napa had just closed.

4 of the hoses were male to male pipe, and one was male pipe to female pipe swivel.

picked up the mal to male hoses and a swivel adapter.. got down to the bucket cyl ( they looked the worst) and wouldn't you know it.. the 90 adapter into the block on the bucket cyl sheared off when i tried to take the hose loose.. GRRR..

an easy out tapped into the hollw broken portion easilly extracted the broke nipple.. I found another adapter and homefully it's in tight and won't leak now.

one of the connections was from the valve to the hard lines running down the arms.. boy was that sucker on tight. nearly fell off the trailer when it came loose.. :)

am replacing the oem crank breather with a universal one that is a lil smaller as it interferes with my rube goldber'd lower rad hose a bit.

grabbed some more chain and clevis's to hook up the check chains in the rear. also tightened down a loose fender bolt.. no more wobbly fenders. noticed the loader mounts were nice enough to incorporate sway par hookups.. so will add those as well, later on.

tires are loaded calc..e tc. got all the oils I need to do a full service. notice dthe vent cap on top of the loader resv was broke and so loader oil supply is wet. will drain and flush and replace. made a new plastic preather cap for the loader resv.

speaking of oil.. here are some price comparisons I noted.

15w40 diesel oil, traveler brand, 10.94 per gallon,.. vs walmart supertech at 10$

tsc UTF fluid at 35$ per 5g compair to walmart at 39.85 per 5g.

walmart r&o hyd oil was 36$ per 5g.

tsc iso 32 and 46 hyd oils were a whopping 42$

why buy an iso 32 hyd oil for 42$ when utf is 35$

even better.. tsc has a brand of 303 oil.. says it meets some but not all transmission and hyd specs for new tractors, meets most old specs, and should perform fine as a general hyd oil. 25$ per 5g.

thus I bought that for my loader oil. already have utf for the tractor hyds.

a quick look over the tractor shows an expanded metal front grill has been made for it, as well it has a new, decent fitting radiator. my guess is something pushed thru the oem grill and ate the radiator thus the expanded metal grill.

I'm tempted to leave it like that too.

also notice I have one front stud broke off. and amazingly it ain't welded to the hub inthe back!! thus i'll pop it out and drive a new one in maybee on friday.

by that time I was already working by trouble light so threw in the towel and came in and made some dinner.

did find 2 small cracks on the loader frame and bucket that will need welded. nutting major. looks like a 2 rod job. more work on friday i guess!

soundguy
 
Sounds like you had a good day "tinkering" and getting better acquainted.

If/when you ever replace any radiator hoses with the springs inside, you'll do well to save the springs. I don't like to replace any hose w/o a spring inserted.

Send us some "warm weather"!!

Rick
 
Up here in New England TSC has been having a sale on Shell Rotella 15w-40 for $11 a gallon.

Thanks for sharing the story of hydraulic hoses. That's going to be a spring project for me.

Back when I used to work on a dirt/gravel floor, I always assumed that if I had a concrete floor I'd never lose bolts, nuts, springs when I dropped them. Now I have a concrete floor and know better. Your spring story confirms how wrong I was.. there's always a place to hide. Spent 10 minutes looking for a nut the other day, gave up. Found it next day under the snowblower.
 
(quoted from post at 07:14:46 02/10/11) yep they either fall into the grass or rol under something in the shop.

soundguy

Not so! I've had springs bounce up and land in a box on a shelf. Man was that hard to find!

Sounds like that machine will be whipped into shape pretty quick. Very jealous of your ability to do stuff outside it's -12F this AM and there's 2ft of snow on the ground.
 
guess i won't complain about 40' and raining here if it's -12 and snowy where you are!

stay warm!

soundguy
 
I'll see how many he has, are you going to pick them up next time you come to get a dog? you need to bring clean empty buckets to exchange.
 
Funny, I saw on their website last week that they have 4 puppies available, but no, we are happy with the one we bought from them last year. I really don't use enough oil to justify the trip to visit you. So tell me how the flywheel worked out for you. Did you win any pulls?
 
Well, it never slipped or smoked so I guess it worked. And yes I won a few. also got some last and next to last trophies because there weren't a lot of entries in the larger farm stock pulls last season. At some of the pulls towards the end of the season when they saw me and my buddy with his D-21 coming they instituted a hot farm class just for the two of us.
 
We're above 0 now (1 pm), but it was -27 when I got
up this morning. I'm ready for spring!! Supposed to
be in 30's next week.
 
We aren't quite as cold, but the snow is piling up and without any real warm spell it's not sliding off roofs. We have lost dozens of old barns in the area due to roof collapses along with local schools, warehouses, houses, etc.
 
If you turn the lower rad hose end for end it will give more clearance for the PS belt and work just fine. Have had mine on 801 like that for years. John
 
no matter how I installed it it would not fit without rubbing. I needed about an inch more clearance.

It may be a ps pump from an old ford or?? car that was added as it sticks out a couple more inches than I remember other ford PS pumps

soundguy
 

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