Something doesnt look right

[RetiredMarine]

There is something clearly wrong with the rear disc setup, but for the life of me I don't know what it is. Any help would be appreciated.

 

[Loosehandle]

It is angled the wrong way, the convex outer ends should be trailing the center

 

[RetiredMarine]

I'm sorry I don't understand

 

[bmaverick]

I'm sorry I don't understand

See attached, it will help you understand the disc harrow lingo and various setups to do certain chores.

For the most part, yours is a Tandem.

If we knew your model and manufacture, maybe a manual could be found.


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[RobCons]

What makes you think something is wrong? Will it not dig into the ground?

 

[rustred]

There is something clearly wrong with the rear disc setup, but for the life of me I don't know what it is. Any help would be appreciated. View attachment 5076

the rear gangs are on the wrong angle. it appears someone has did some remodeling on them. look at the rear angle iron, someone was bending it. what make is that disc, then could look it up and see how it should be.

 

[RetiredMarine]

I agree the back gangs are wrong. I think they are on the wrong sides but I'm not sure how they should go. I can't find a model number on it to look up any sort of manual.

 

[DoubleO7]

I agree the back gangs are wrong. I think they are on the wrong sides but I'm not sure how they should go. I can't find a model number on it to look up any sort of manual.

Maybe those long braces in the center (circled in green) are not original.
What happens if you take those out and then swing the ends of the back gangs forward?
Until they are at the opposite angle of the front gangs.
Might be darn close and then alter those long braces to suit.

 

[RetiredMarine]

I know all of the pieces are origional. The back gangs were taken off to repair a spacer on one of them. This idiot can't seem to figure out how they go back together. Lol I know when correct the back gangs extend wider than the footprint of the front ones, not by much but they are wider. I've just got them on wrong..wrong sides..wrong holes.. something.

 

[flying belgian]

Maybe those long braces in the center (circled in green) are not original.
What happens if you take those out and then swing the ends of the back gangs forward?
Until they are at the opposite angle of the front gangs.
Might be darn close and then alter those long braces to suit.
View attachment 5132

I agree double thats what needs to be done but He said those are all original pieces. So it seems like it is just assembled wrong. I studied it a long time and cannot see how you could get that back gang angled correct and still use all the pieces.

 

[RetiredMarine]

All those pieces are origional, I know that part. I think I'm using the wrong holes. Plus I think the disks should be angled opposite of the first gang. So that means they are on the wrong sides... I think

 

[paul]

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[caterpillar guy]

What happens if you take the angle bars and move them up to the bars with the holes in them right behind the front disc gang like the red lines in Pauls picture shows? While the angles are the ones shown in 007's picture that are highlighted. That would pull the rear gangs back into similarly correct locations . You could then see what it looks like before bolting up. The rear gangs should set like in Mavericks diagram with the tractor shown pulling it. It is also possible if you had the rear gangs both apart that one of the bearings got put back in the wrong location on the shaft. maybe should be moved in or out on the shaft a disk . Just a thought .

 

[Tx Jim]

This is correct position for angle irons & correct angle of rear disk gangs

 

[LPakiz]

Notice that the rear gangs are PARALLEL to the front gangs. That is incorrect. The general shape of the implement should be an "X" shape. (turn this X on its side)
The cup side of every disc blade, front and rear, should face towards the tractor.
The rear gangs do not. There is no way the rear gangs will dig in. They try to lift themselves out of ground engagement.
The center braces (draw bars) on the rear assembly need to be shortened, (or anchored to the correct position) to pull the inside ends of the rear gangs forward, past parallel and still more forward, until the cupped disc blades face forward. A likely anchor seems to be the multi-holed bracket on the back side of the front gangs, as Paul shows with the red highlights.
It also seems that those long inner braces should be anchored to a point that pulls the 2 gangs together, to counteract the tendency of the 2 rear gangs to separate.

Also, is this a full-mounted, hydraulic lift disc? If it's just a pull-behind, there should be a way to move the gangs straight across, for transport. We used to adjust the angle to allow for transport, for tractor horsepower or soft spots in the field. At full angle, these implements pulled HARD!

Again, the rear gangs are not angled correctly, not even close. Texas Jim and Paul has it right.

 

[casecollectorsc]

Maybe those long braces in the center (circled in green) are not original.
What happens if you take those out and then swing the ends of the back gangs forward?
Until they are at the opposite angle of the front gangs.
Might be darn close and then alter those long braces to suit.
View attachment 5132

I think that angle iron needs to be heated and straightened, looks as though it was bent back to make it work. then the long circled irons would attach to the front gang so they would move in unison when setting the pitch. My HO.

 

[flying belgian]

This is correct position for angle irons & correct angle of rear disk gangs

Oh sure. Now I see it.

 

[DoubleO7]

I think that angle iron needs to be heated and straightened, looks as though it was bent back to make it work. then the long circled irons would attach to the front gang so they would move in unison when setting the pitch. My HO.

It would take great effort to bend that angle iron without the horizontal leg buckling to get it to where it is now. Without a bender you would have to cut that horizontal leg out and then bend the vertical leg and weld in a piece of steel to suit the horizontal space.

 

[DoubleO7]

Sure nuff Tx Jim nailed it.
I did not see those hole bars on backside of the front gang!

 

[rustred]

I agree the back gangs are wrong. I think they are on the wrong sides but I'm not sure how they should go. I can't find a model number on it to look up any sort of manual.

they are NOT on wrong, they are on the wrong angle. the 2 inside gangs need to be pulled forward where them 2 angle irons are. un bolt the front of each one and pull the inward side in then bolt the angle irons to the next set of holes in the middle of angle iron. the front gangs throw the dirt outward and the rear ones have to bring the dirt back in.