Something doesnt look right

[RetiredMarine]

Let me digest all these observations and suggestions... thank you!

 

[RetiredMarine]

This doesn't look right either. I changed one side to match Jim's suggestion but it looks like it pulls the rear gang into a very awkward angle.

 

[DoubleO7]

This doesn't look right either. I changed one side to match Jim's suggestion but it looks like it pulls the rear gang into a very awkward angle.

I would think that whatever angle the forward gangs are at, you want the rear gangs at the same angle away from the front gangs.
With the five hole choices at the front gang and the three hole choices at the rear gang, you have fifteen angles to choose from, right?

 

[Ozlander]

Looks to me like it was backed into place. Need to pull it forward before doing anything to it.

 

[RetiredMarine]

No it was pulled into the spot it's sitting at after I tried to use it last time. I know before the rear gangs were removed for repair they stuck out wider than the front gangs. Thsts how it was damaged, the front gangs cleared a tree I got too close to and the rear gang did not. Unfortunately both rear gangs were removed instead of just the damaged one so now I'm playing " how the heck foes this thing go on?" Lol

 

[DoubleO7]

No it was pulled into the spot it's sitting at after I tried to use it last time. I know before the rear gangs were removed for repair they stuck out wider than the front gangs. Thsts how it was damaged, the front gangs cleared a tree I got too close to and the rear gang did not. Unfortunately both rear gangs were removed instead of just the damaged one so now I'm playing " how the heck foes this thing go on?" Lol

Was it off along time so as to loose the "witness marks" of where it was bolted up before?

 

[RetiredMarine]

Long enough it seems. Unlucky me!!

 

[Scott 730]

This doesn't look right either. I changed one side to match Jim's suggestion but it looks like it pulls the rear gang into a very awkward angle.

That is pretty much what it should look like. Now do the other side the same.

 

[RetiredMarine]

I move both center arms to the brackes on the front gangs. I also noticed that it's only half open/closed. (Blue line attached to the adjustment lever. Maybe after its fully opened?

 

[LPakiz]

Looks closer right now. On all our old (1955) discs, the rear gangs stuck out a bit farther than the front. This is because the fronts are going to "throw" dirt out wider than the blades. The rear gangs gather the dirt back in, to its original position in the field. Many times, the very outer disc blade was smaller, to reduce the throw (fronts) and to reduce the "ditch" the rear gang made when they re-gathered the dirt. You'll see exactly when you get on some plowing and getup to speed.

Another way to tell if you are adjusted correctly is to hook onto the disc, release the latch (blue rope) somewhere on the tongue by lifting a latch out of its notch, then move the FRONT gang to "neutral," that is, exactly straight across, like a cult i packer or lawn roller. You will need to release the tongue so it slides forward or backward, (with the tractor) until the front gangs are straight. Our manual adjusted ones had a rope hooked to the rear of the seat, so that latch could be lifted without getting off. Then set the desired angle by backing up a few inches or going forward a few inches, release the rope, dropping the latch into your selected notch.
Then hook up the rear gangs to be "straight across" or neutral. BTW, this is the setting for transporting.

Just looked at your newest pic. Just hook onto it and pull it across the field. You'll see, you are very close.
(And I notice the angle iron draw arms cross the big wide bent main frame on pretty much the same worn spot that I noticed earlier.)
Oh, and tie that rope to the seat with a small, weak piece of wire, so when you unhook the disc and drive off without unhooking the rope, the wire breaks instead of breaking your rope. If the rope stretches and then breaks down by the latch, it can leave some impressive welts on a 12 year olds back.

 

[RetiredMarine]

Thanks. I remember the discs being in line with the tractor for transporting mode. Now I just need some dry days to get to it with the tractor and try it!

 

[DoubleO7]

Thanks. I remember the discs being in line with the tractor for transporting mode. Now I just need some dry days to get to it with the tractor and try it!

Comparing the differences in the circled areas, I suspect the frame has been jacked to one side.
May have happened when you snagged the tree?

 

[LPakiz]

Before you panic too much, hook on and pull it 5-10 feet to see if it straightens out and pulls true. Good chance it will.

If it still tracks funny, look close at the difference between the angle iron pull bars. The bar on the left gang (as you sit in the seat) is drawing that gang closer to the front than the bar on the ditch side. Compare the relative position of a bolt hole or attachment point on your angle iron pull bar. It's obvious.
The issue is farther towards the front, near the multi-hole attachment plate, where the bar attaches. Or the multi-hole plate itself is out of position from the accident.
But again, the implement may straighten up just by pulling it to allow it (especially the front gangs and linkage) to get in a relaxed position.

 

[RetiredMarine]

Double07. Now that you point it out it's pretty obvious. Thanks! I'' do what LPakiz suggests and try it out as soon as I can and see if it's ok. I appreciate the help!!

 

[flying belgian]

Double07. Now that you point it out it's pretty obvious. Thanks! I'' do what LPakiz suggests and try it out as soon as I can and see if it's ok. I appreciate the help!!

Now next time before you take anything apart snap a picture of it with your phone. I know it seems like the whimpy way out but I do it all the time. People are impressed with how good of mechanic I appear to be.

 

[rustred]

This doesn't look right either. I changed one side to match Jim's suggestion but it looks like it pulls the rear gang into a very awkward angle.

as i said before that centre angle iron is bent ,u can see that someone heated it up and bent it. it is too be straight then your rear gang will be correct. your getting it, now just need that angle iron straight.

 

[DoubleO7]

as i said before that centre angle iron is bent ,u can see that someone heated it up and bent it. it is too be straight then your rear gang will be correct. your getting it, now just need that angle iron straight.

I don't think so.
Look at post #14 by Tx Jim, which shows that exact disc with the bent angle from the factory.

 

[Nail driver]

I think Jim is right, looks like the disk that dad had in the 50's and 60's. John Deere I think.

 

[paul]

We must have lost a lot of experienced members if it’s this difficult getting info on a John Deere series J, probably JB disk.

Get a manual for it if you have trouble fine tuning the setup from here.

$20.

https://external_link.com/products/john-deere-j-ja-jb-and-jba-disk-harrow-manual

(If we can do links in this format…..)

 

[DoubleO7]

We must have lost a lot of experienced members if it’s this difficult getting info on a John Deere series J, probably JB disk.

Get a manual for it if you have trouble fine tuning the setup from here.

$20.

https://external_link.com/products/john-deere-j-ja-jb-and-jba-disk-harrow-manual

(If we can do links in this format…..)

We were hoping you would pop in and help

Yes, you can create links with this new forum.
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