Starter bolt positions

Anonymous-0

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Well, came to the conclusion that starter needs to be rebuilt because once tractor and starter are hot, the starter acts like it's hooked up to a very weak battery. Anyway, with all of John Deere's innovations, one would think the starter mounting bolts could be a little easier to get at. Guess I have to break down and buy some ratching box end wrenches. Takes a while to get off when one has to alternate two different box end wrenches to remove the bottom bolt. Think I was turning it about 1/32 of a revolution at a time.
 
A torch-modified, generic "Cee" shaped starter wrench ( 1/2 x 9/16 or 9/16 x 5/8) and you're in business.
 
Once you get it removed reinstall the starter with 12 point capscrews. Much easier the next time, only issue is if you want everything original for the "correct" police.

Cummins engines normally come with 12 point starter mounting capscrews, you can check with one of them or a bolt supply company.
 
What tracor/engine is this on? I use a wrench from Snap on that is a better version of the John Deere/OTC tool for the Waterloo builts, and a home made verion of the tool called for in the Mannhiem tech manual. If I knew how to post a drawing of it I would but it incorporates a 9/16 box end wrench cut off to a length of about 2" welded to a 12" length of 1/2 rod with a 90 degree bend and a 1/2 nut welded on at the corner of the bend. Slide the box end in over the starter bolt or nut apply 3/4 wrench to nut break hardware loose use bent end as a speed handle to spin bolt out. The rules of removing these starters are as follows; It must be outside and raining or extremely cold, the tractor has to have a loader mounted,and it can only be worked on in the dark.
 
For a 4020, I bought a shallow 9/16 socket mounted short to a 3/8 u-joint. I ground the open end of the socked so that it just fits over the bolt head. Used with 3/8 extensions and rachet, it works nicely.
 
Looks like it's taken a lot of good old fashion american ingenuity to remove a 3/8" x 1 1/4" bolt from tight quarters. Maybe a 3/8" drive socket with universal will fit. All I had was a 1/2" drive socket set and luckily two different 9/16" box end wrenches. Luckier yet was the bolt was "frozen" and turned rather easily.
 
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