TO-30 project

[James of Stark]

We are beginning to dig into a project. There are items I am not sure of when it comes to intended function. And questions about their need if certian updates can be made. I will post some pics and some open ended questions. Feel free to say what is on your mind.
What is the function of the springs on the shaft?
Is this cavity supposed to have oil or is it dry?
Is there anything recommended to do before we split it? Most everything for the list is complete, but how difficult will it be with the clutch being so rusty???
We are going to support the engine and remove the fron axle prior to the split...

THANKS!!!

 

[Ryan (MI)]

The purpose of the springs is to fully release the
throwout bearing from the clutch. If it didn't
have the spring the weight of the clutch pedal
would be enough to press the throwout bearing
against the clutch, and keeping it spinning all
the time, wearing it out.

It's dry...looks like someone made a home in
there.

Make sure you clean up the output shaft housing
wear the throwout bearing rides to prevent a
sticky clutch. While it's apart, you may when to
replace the trans output shaft seal. Easy time to
do it.

 

[James of Stark]

While we are in there, we figured we would replace everything we could. Is this site the best place to get parts? I want to buy a complete clutch kit.

 

[Ryan (MI)]

Your on the right website. You can get to the parts
section by clicking the links on the top of the page
or click the following.
Yesterdays Tractor

 

[Jeff-oh]

James,

If you need parts for this area let me know as I have many available from my parts tractors.

I have posted my e-mail address.

Jeff

 

[John UK]

There should be no oil in the clutch housing. The springs prevent the pedal pressing the bearing onto the Clutch. It maybe difficult to split, but really you wont know until you try as it could be easy because the shaft is inside the Plate. The Cross-shaft for the Clutch will most likely be seized or very tight and will need removing.
If you need the info for splitting the tractor and replacing and setting the Clutch or anything else to do with your tractor, email me direct and I will send [email protected]

 

[Anonymous-0]

James, I have used parts in FL. Jim

 

[Bill Brox]

Oh my goodness how it looks in there... how on this planet did the nest get in there ?

Do you have citric acid ? 40 grams to 1 liter (1 quart) and let the part soak to remove the rust. (Steel parts)

Supposed to be dry in there, except moving parts can be lubricated lightly. Even the splines can be lubricated, with for example coppergrease. But, just a little, not so much that the rotating slings it out to the friction material.

Rusted parts can be painted with something if you like, to prevent it from rusting.

I saw it was mentioned to replace the transmission output shaft, but I guess he meant the input shaft, as there are no seal on the output shaft. Just in case it could lead to a misunderstanding.


Bill

 

[James of Stark]

Sounds interesting...Should I perform the "soak" prior to the split then? Will the mix kill a shop vac? How long? Any particular brand? Sounds like it might help free other things up if I were to soak it all together.

Thanks,

Jim

 

[Jeff-oh]

You can also reclaim the rusted material through electrolisis. Here is a link from the FENA web site to an article written by Paul(AZ)
Rust Removal with a battery charger.

 

[Bill Brox]

No no, you must disassemble first, not soak the entire transmission in anything acid stuff.

Jeff, I have been using electrolysis myself, with good result. But, for smaller and a few parts it is a lot more setup.

I have bought a 25 kg sack with citric acid. But, not tried it yet. I have used small household bags before with good result. But, it requires a lot of flushing in clean water after. Perhaps add a little soap to it too, it neutralize the acid.

I have no idea about your shop vacuum cleaner. Maybe it will smell lemon juice after... ha ha.

I have no idea about brands in the US. Sorry.


Bill

 

[phil(va)]

Mice have been known to get into a clutch or bellhousing via the timing display hole, if it isn't sealed off.

 

[James of Stark]

The work continues...The parts list is adding up fast.

 

[WDfrmTN]

(quoted from post at 07:50:59 07/18/11) No no, you must disassemble first, not soak the entire transmission in anything acid stuff.

Jeff, I have been using electrolysis myself, with good result. But, for smaller and a few parts it is a lot more setup.

I have bought a 25 kg sack with citric acid. But, not tried it yet. I have used small household bags before with good result. But, it requires a lot of flushing in clean water after. Perhaps add a little soap to it too, it neutralize the acid.

Bill

Believe it or not, molasses is very good for rust removal of small parts, and you can batch clean them many at one time!
http://virtualindian.org/projrust.htm#molasses
http://www.stovebolt.com/techtips/rust/rust_molasses.htm