TO30 Gears do not move when shifting

[AllanK]

Hi, I am a new owner of a non operating to30 that I am reviving. The shifter lever was stuck so I was able to free it by moving the middle pin selector with a pry bar. Now the shifter moves freely but the gears do not move forward or back when shifting into different gears. Do the gears only shift when the engine is on? I am able to move the shifter all the way right but can't seem to go into reverse or start, only the first 4 gears on the left and middle side. I can explain more if needed or provide pictures. Let me know. Thanks!

 

[marloweg]

you pulled the shifter out of the rails

 

[AllanK]

you pulled the shifter out of the rails

Oh. Do I need to take the cover off to fix it or can I take the pin out of the shifter and lift it?

 

[Jim L WA]

Hi AllanK, welcome to the forum. You should be able to shift in all gears whether the engine is running or not.
Yes, sounds like you need to remove the top cover so you can see what's going under there.

 

[John Deere D]

Oh. Do I need to take the cover off to fix it or can I take the pin out of the shifter and lift it?

This is a TO-20 Transmission. Possibly someone can verify if this is the same transmission in the TO-30? Click on pic to enlarge pic.

 

[John Deere D]

Oh. Do I need to take the cover off to fix it or can I take the pin out of the shifter and lift it?

This is a TO-20 Transmission. Possibly, someone can verify if this is the same transmission in the TO-30? Click on pic to enlarge pic.

 

[AllanK]

The shifter was never off the rail. I was looking at a video of a to35 shifting and it shows the gears moving forward and back. It looks like the to30 has these horseshoe like pieces that move forward and back instead, is that correct? Gears do not go forward and back, it looks like.

Here are pictures with the springs out so I can move them freely. The reverse and start rail was seized so a dead blow hammer freed it up.

 

[John Deere D]

The shifter was never off the rail. I was looking at a video of a to35 shifting and it shows the gears moving forward and back. It looks like the to30 has these horseshoe like pieces that move forward and back instead, is that correct? Gears do not go forward and back, it looks like.

Here are pictures with the springs out so I can move them freely. The reverse and start rail was seized so a dead blow hammer freed it up.

Why do several of the GEARS appear NOT to be perpendicular to a shift rail ?

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[AllanK]

Why do several of the GEARS appear NOT to be perpendicular to a shift rail ?
View attachment 63377?

I think it might be the camera angle. It looks straight to me in person. Here's another picture.

 

[AllanK]

Thanks everyone for all the help. I figured everything out. I lifted the rear tires and the gears rotate fine. For everyone's information, the TO30 has these horseshoe plate of metal under the rail to engage the gears for different speeds. On later models, the gears move themselves eliminating the horseshoe plates. Will be moving onto the starter and it should run!