traction

[55-800]

i have an 800 with a 703 ford loader, whenever i load it up with wood i get little or no traction. i have a blade on the 3 point. i was thinking about loading the tires with the alternative to calc. cloride and was wondering if anyone knows about how much weight i would be adding by doing that? and if anyone knows about how much the loader itself weighs?

 

[old]

I run a 801/841 with a loader all the time. I have fluid in both tires and I keep a blade on back plus 6 85lbs suit case weights on the blade. I use wiper fluid in my tires which adds less lbs. then cacl does but doesn't cause the problem that if does. In a 13.6X28 tire doing that adds around 300lbs to each tire give or take a little bit
Hobby farm

 

[55-800]

next thing on my list is to load them tires. i would hope that loader isnt more than 600#, that is alot of steel though. thanks

 

[JMS MN]

There is no reason to be afraid of CaCL, unless you don"t fix a leak when it is detected. We"ve run CaCl for decades with no problems....unless you ignore a leak. My Dad had CaCl in his tractors since 1939, and I"ve had the same since I started in "72. Neither one of us ever lost a rim. Yes, it is a salt, and will rust steel. Fixing the leak fixes the problem- just like pumping up a tire that is low on air. It"s simply a matter of proper maintenance. Charts are available to show how many pounds of ballast are provided by each system, and CaCL is the heaviest per gallon. This whole issue is overrated- just a matter of neglected maintenance!

 

[Mark - IN.]

Well, calcium chloride can take its toll on steel over time, and the deere guy just mentioned beet juice to me because he says it don't freeze and supposedly more guys are going to it...if he aint pulling my leg. Maybe its a green thing, and I don't mean deere green thing so much as green green thing. Currently I'm running calcium chloride. I didn't ask him how much beet juice goes for, but with a set of new rims, I might consider it with or opposed to the iron weights.

By the way, speaking of green green, I was working at a power plant today and one of the sparkies was going around replacing the florescent bulbs with smaller diameter bulbs that used the same fixtures, so I asked what was up. He pointed to the green ends on the new bulbs and said "They're green bulbs". Supposedly, don't have the same amount of hazardous material (mercury, etc), so can throw them in the trash as opposed to calling the hazmat guys to dispose, and supposedly consume less power. I asked what they go for, and he chuckled that since were green...probably a lot more green. Could be. One thing's for sure, they were bright as all get out, but many flickered like strobe lights and the old ones didn't. Heck, I got sunburned.

 

[Mathias NY]

Here's a link to a website with the calcium tire weights. The loader probabaly weights around 1000 lbs. Most of that weight will be over the front tires, so it will actually work against you on traction.
Calcium in tires

 

[Anonymous-0]

Save your money for wt and buy a trailer to haul your wood. A loader on a tractor with the bucket full of wood is not smart just an accident looking for a place to happen you add wt then oh i can hausl more on the front and bingo therews an upset just get smart and get a trailer to haul your wood. There isnt hardly a week goes by here in IOWA where someone going down road with a bale on the front has a wreck of some kind makes a turn into a drive and gets run over or going down a hill and goes off road and it just goes on and on.

 

[mhb@ufe]

43 gallons of rim guard in 13.6x28 tire will add about 470lbs per tire.

 

[Anonymous-0]

You are absolutely right. This issue is highly overated. My grandfather, my father, and me have all been using calcium chloride in tractor tires. They are both gone now, but like myself, they refused to use an unballasted tractor on these hills. Just simple maintenence is all that's required. If they start leaking; fix them Mr. Bob

 

[e56505]

BRILLIANT! hey dude fill your tires , youll get better traction. enjoy your ford, and try not to tip over and die...

 

[Ken Macfarlane]

I don't know much about that tractor but the little loader and brackets on my kubota weighs 1500 lbs with no bucket, the 6 ft bucket is 400 lbs.

 

[old]

Depending on the size and if its a heavy duty one it can add up to around 2500lbs to it. Drop me an e-mail and I'll send you a page from a 1935 JD-B owners manual that will tell you how to fill you tires with out special equipment
Hobby farm

 

[buickanddeere]

Back in those days the only antifreeze solution affordable was salt water.
Now with beet juice or ethanol mixes. Why use something potentially troublesome when a less problematic alternative available?

 

[SparepartsTN]

55-800

Here are some specs that might help you make a decision.

Maximum calcium chloride solution capacities:
13.6-28 four ply tire....187#CalC, 38 Gals water, equals 504 lbs solution per tire at 90% fill. Information courtesy of Ford 2000/4000 Operator manual.

Ford 703 loader: 825 lbs shipping weight with #19-125 material bucket which weighs 360 lbs. Information courtesy of Ford loader series 703 operators manual.

I"m sure that you already know that you should always carry your bucket as low as possible to prevent an unstable situation .

I have a 1962 4000 with 703 loader with 6 foot wide bucket in hilly terrain in Tennessee. I upgraded from old 13.6-28 tires loaded with CalC to new 14.9-28 tires loaded with fluid and approximatly 1100 lbs of pie wheel weights because I couldn"t get enough traction or braking on my hills when I put dirt in the bucket. Also helps when I plow or pull a drag disc.
Warren