Tractor identification

[Shawn Losey]

Looking at purchasing a tractor not sure what it is. These are the numbers I got

 

[stevieb49829]

Shawn, I can see part of a yellow wheel in your photo - John Deere, Massey? It would help a lot if you mentioned what brand you are looking at instead of us guessing that. Or a couple of pictures of the whole tractor. Or is this just a challenge to see how good a knowledge base we have here? steve

 

[Shawn Losey]

Lol sorry it's a ford.

 

[WESnIL]

How about pictures of the entire tractor?

 

[stevieb49829]

NAME THAT TRACTOR You now have 3 photos, and a hint that it is a Ford. Can you name that tractor in one more photo? One more casting number? How about one photo of the Serial Number plate? A closeup of the dash? This might be more fun than the big tomato contest!!! steve

 

[Mule Meat]

Ford 5000

 

[funky_g00]

Lol sorry it's a ford.View attachment 72139

The engine casting number says it is a ford 5000. Whether this engine fits other models I do not know. According to the serial number chart I found you are missing a digit from the tractor serial number photo in the first picture, if it is indeed a ford 5000.

 

[Destroked 450]

Don’t need any more info, it a 5000 Ford built May 1965
Axle pined to the oil pan and photo of the right floor board along with early build date was enough info

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

Hi Shawn,

I'm curious as to what your thought process was for not including a picture of the whole tractor.

It's not just you, but the vast majority of people who post "What tractor do I have?" questions do this. Seems like the logical thing would be to lead with a picture of the whole tractor. The other pictures are useful too, but sometimes casting numbers are not unique to a particular tractor model.

 

[TerryfromSWIowa]

Don't know what it is but I know it has an oil leak or a lot of rust prevention.

 

[stevieb49829]

Don’t need any more info, it a 5000 Ford built May 1965
Axle pined to the oil pan and photo of the right floor board along with early build date was enough info

Hi, Destroked. My question is could you have guessed that with only the first photo of the stamped numbers? Some people do know their tractors that well. steve

 

[Destroked 450]

Hi, Destroked. My question is could you have guessed that with only the first photo of the stamped numbers? Some people do know their tractors that well.

Maybe you can help clarify a ongoing question
First row 5E4B is a built date, for most purposes it is assumed to be the tractor’s production date
However the serial number appears to be for a Basildon export model
The 3rd row E205, I have basically only seen this number arrangement on Euro models
I’ve been told some of the early Euro models transmission date codes were stamped on the right side of the housing instead of the left side like US models
I have also been told that prior to 65 Euro tractors were date stamped by month, date, year
And some of the older workers had a habit of continuing to using those date codes
I don’t think it a engine or model code, although the model code for a 5000 is an E prior to mid 68 the 5000 model code was an R so there was no reason to stamp an E for the model during that time
I have seen a number of early Euro models with that odd coding, and if read a MDY it usually correlates with a few days or weeks after the YMD code we are use to seeing

So my question is, is there an official definition for those numbers

Now my answer to your question is without a actual standardized model code I could not say what model the tractor is
Looking at the 1st and 3rd rows as date codes I can say the tractor was built May 1965 on one of two possible dates
I have only seen that odd looking 0 on European models and the Basildon export tractors were the only ones that started the serial numbers with 0
Domestic use serial numbers started with 8
Antwerp models had a odd numbering system that I still don’t have enough info to fully understand