tractor tire thoughts

[Gun guru]

If a guy were to have regular R1 bar tires on a tractor and he wanted tire chains could the guy just buy a box of stainless steel hex lag screws and screw them into the lugs of the tires? The size of the screws would be like 5/16" with a 9/16" hex head. My thoughts are that it would dig into the ice as good as tire chains.
What do you guys think of this?

 

[old]

Could be done but it would also be very hard on the tires. It would sort of work like the old studded snow tires on cars but they proved to cause problem. Now if you up north far enough check into a motor cycle shop they us to make studs for motor cycles that would probably work better
Hobby farm

 

[Anonymous-0]

Only thing I can comment on is that the stainless head will not hold up to the abrasion, you would need something hardened like what cutting edge material is made of. Just the thought using lag's in tires like that makes no sense at all, maybe I'm wrong but I'd think they would tear out and damage the tire, interested to hear what others say on this one.

 

[Gun guru]

Yeah you may be right it would have to be hardended tool steel, like H or M series tool steel 45Rc. Or.....use a dremel in the tractor tire lugs and make deep grooves in the lugs and press in a hardened plate that would be like a blade with 2 flanges. Just rifling off ideas here.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Yeah, the idea itself is practical in theory, and knowing what it's like to lose traction on ice with my tractor, just a little sand will get you out, so you don't need much of a bite to get some grip.

Knowing a little about fasteners, hard to really say what if anything in any line of common fasteners would hold up against the abrasion encountered, I always thought astm designation type 304 and other similar stainless was more on the soft side, if it would hold in the tire without pulling out or tearing out, was hard enough, used on ice only, hard to say, wonder if anyone has tried it ?

 

[ny bill]

i think you would soon have tires with shredded bars after the lags ripped out of them, and lags laying around the driveway waiting for another tire to puncture. or alternately, if you are working around cattle, several cases of hardware disease. and being stainless, a magnet wouldn't collect the errant lags.

 

[Mark-Mi]

Hex head sheet metal screws are used for ice racing motorcycles and atvs.Buzz em in with drill.
Mark

 

[Anonymous-0]

They would rip out and damage the traction bars on the tires. Motorcycle tires have special hardened screws with raised edges on the heads of the screws. The tires are far from standard. The rear tires usually have 2 street bike tires, with the side walls cut off inside the tires for the screws to grab. The front tires only need 1 liner because they don't have the torque of the rear tires. Mounting ice racing tires is a real exercise in frustration and anybody that's ever done has had some bloody knuckles. With the liners inside, the tires are very heavy and very stiff. The screws in the back tire are usually 1 1/2 inches long! I've been in a few ice races, including the numb bum 24 hour. Some of the really experienced guys can change a tire in under 10 minutes, in the cold! A guy was using a Kubota tractor to clear snow and put some screws in the tires. If he went slow and was only pushing very light amounts it worked but if the tractor had to work a little, the screws ripped out pretty easily. Dave