Wanted pulling tractor

[HollywoodYearwood]

Looking for a running John Deere 4000, or a 3020 with bad engine. The worse shape the better. Wanting to build a rough looking, but great pulling tractor. Got some shiny farmalls that need a whooping. Email me if you have anything. Located in north central ga.

Thanks Ryan

 

[ricky c]

would that be a M

 

[Anonymous-0]

I have a 4020 gas settin here....

 

[HollywoodYearwood]

Cody, thanks but im looking for a diesel, i should have specified what i wanted better.

Mr. Ricky, we want it to pull about 8500 to 12500 antique, but we could always end up with some cut tires on pulling hot farm. Hurd "Lookin for a Hooker" pulled good sat.

 

[ricky c]

yea 8500 and 9500 weighted at 8500
check out the video

 

[cde puller]

You ain't right Hollywood !

 

[4010 puller]

go with 4000 or 4010, engine options are much broader and they can still be light, will it be turboed?

 

[VM PULLIN]

i think a 3020 or 4000 are way too new to be pulling antique.

 

[HollywoodYearwood]

4010 Puller, if i got a 3020 we would put a 4020 motor in it, and make it a 4000. Some places we pull complain about top cut tires, and electric fuel pumps, and k&n air filters, and dual exhaust on two cylinders. So we are gona aproach a diff. angle with a "stock" 6 cyl. diesel thats non turbo.

For pulling up through about 12,500 at 3.5 mph with 18.4x38s will the stock 4000/4020 95 hp plus some pump work be enough? What do you guys think?

 

[HollywoodYearwood]

VM pullin, the way i look at it, theres only about 10 years or less diff. in a 560 farmall, and a 3020/4000/4020 john deere. Thats no diff. than a G john deere vs. a 560 farmall. if less than 10 years is gona make a diff. then tractors from the 50's shouldnt be pulling with those from the 30's, but they are.

 

[Anonymous-0]

A non-turbo diesel will get stomped by any good running gas tractor. Building one would be stupid. A diesel without a turbo is like building a Super Stock and running 18.4 tires. Buy a 4010 make it gas, and you'll kick some A$$.

 

[Superih]

(quoted from post at 06:29:53 04/05/11) A non-turbo diesel will get stomped by any good running gas tractor. Building one would be stupid. A diesel without a turbo is like building a Super Stock and running 18.4 tires. Buy a 4010 make it gas, and you'll kick some A$$.

I agree, a diesel without a turbo is just a good cultivating tractor.

 

[HollywoodYearwood]

At first we will probably just be pulling in the 8500 and 9500, against an A john deere, G john deere, 560 farmall, and super M farmall. Would a 3020/4000/4020 diesel without turbo be a winner? then later down the road add a turbo for the heavier classes and bigger competion?

Building a gas puller will put me back in the same boat im in now with my G john deere. Kinda looking for a larger tractor, with more power to begin with, that i can make a "sleeper" out of.

 

[TVMAN]

Have a turn key 4010 jd gas for sale email open

 

[toolz]

I think I'd start with a 4000-4010-4020. It would be a lot easier than putting a 6 cylinder in a 3020.

 

[EFV]

What rules do you have to deal with ? Up against

A,G,M,Super M or 560 ? If you can"t beat these

tractors with a decent 404,much less 466 or 496

4020 means one of two things, either massive rule

bending by your competition or you have much to

learn about pulling. The upside of building a

diesel is that you have a useful tractor the rest

of the year,not a dust collector waiting for the

county fairs to start again. Good luck !

 

[HollywoodYearwood]

Well i have a 51 G JD now that is very competitive up through the 9500. When i first started pullin (when i was 7, im 18 now) the rules were simple, first gear for antique, super was pretty much what ever you could think up. So as i got older, the tractors got bigger and badder. When i got my G it had a cracked manifold, well my father and i had already built dual exhaust for my B, so we put a set on the G, along with fuel pump, k&n filter, and top cut tires. As long as i was coming in 2nd or lower everybody was fine. But we did some major engine work, and then the rules started changing because we were winning all the time. So now i have to pull super against MM GVI's and similar tractors running 7 mph or faster. I have a very competitive antique tractor, not a hot rod. So our plan is to build a cheep ugly tractor that will be stock apperance as the rules say and still be a winner. And a 95 Hp 4020 seems like a good starting place for a 3.5 mph puller. Since we will be pulling it against lesser Hp tractors.

 

[jd b puller]

Ryan, it would probably be less expensive to build your G to 95HP than to start from scratch with a 4020 (this is figuring the purchase price of the 4020 in).

 

[EFV]

So, you're up against GVI's in faster NA classes ?
Not much that can be built to compete with them on
a $ for $ basis,that's the reason to pull 3.5 mph classes ? A 4010 is lighter than a 4020,tougher to
pull 3.5 mph with either as compared to your G.Not
impossible,just tougher, New Generation units were
built for a faster pace than 2 bangers. What are
your rules for lightening/stripping tractor? To be
competitive at 3.5mph a 10/20 would need to be
6500-7000 lbs with operator, not difficult to do
and lighter than that is possible. No good
having more hp if you can't get it to ground. JD
B puller is right that building your G to 95 hp
is cheaper than a newer tractor,but you mentioned
going faster in the future.

 

[630rich]

I think you should just go with a 4010, cheaper to buy, than a 4000/4020. You should not have to hop it up much to win in this class, with these tractors you listed. Dont under-estimate tractors with less power...ever. I place ahead of lots of 4010/4020s a lot, and we run 5 mph class. with just 2 cylinders!

 

[HollywoodYearwood]

jdbpuller, my G has close to that power now (dont want to get specific on here) in order to get up to 95 with it, would require stroking, then in order to pull in antique or the div. II and III at some places would cause me to have to change my exhaust, and some sort of way hide my fuel pump, and hide the k&n filter, and turn less rmps, and run uncut tires. Instead of all that, i was thinking of trying to build a 6cly tractor. I may be beating around a bush thats never going to get me anywhere, i appreciate everyone's input, i found a 4020 that i may purchase, if it doesnt work out the way i have planned then it will be on here forsale before long.

 

[DK44H]

then the way I look at it a 1466 farmall would be able to run against you too without complaints because that tractor would only be 10 or so years newer than your 4010/4020/4000.....

Where then does it stop?

 

[VicS]

Find a cheap junk 4010 Diesel and go for it, There was one at Tunica last December, that was NA. It ran real well. They just pulled exhibition with it. Maybe next year. I looked at it, it had a late model 466 block, don't know how big it was, but 5020 sleeves and pistons would surely help.

 

[HollywoodYearwood]

You do make a very good point. There was a fellow that pulled a 820 JD many years ago that blew the prettiest smoke rings you have ever seen. very amazing to watch it idle all the way down the track. He stopped pulling it because of pulling 16,500, and open classes against d21 allis and 1466 farmalls. I agree with you though, there has to a be cut off point.

 

[jd plowboy]

you can pull at the pulls we go to in sc with that setup in division 3. it is the same as the super class with a 7 mph speed limit. the only problem with the 4010 or 4020 it is going to be newer than 1960 and would have to pull out of competition. the rules here are 1960 or older.

 

[HollywoodYearwood]

I just got a set of rules from the pelion pull. and for div III, they have an rpm limit, no fuel pump, and no dual exhaust. and also my wheely bars dont meet specs.

Wasnt trying to start alot of junk about whats wrong with my tractor i pull now. Just trying to get some opinions about maybe a newer style tractor. There are several places in GA. that i can pull along with some friends that have the same modifications as i do. and nobody complains about a loss. If we start going to all these places with the complex rules its just going to start a big fuss. I might be 18, but im a little to mature to be arguing over the external modifications of my tractor vs. the internal modifications of my competitors tractor.

 

[jd plowboy]

im not trying to start up anything about your tractor. the rules i have say no electric fuel pumps and 10 percent over stock rpms in div 2 class. they are running electric fuels pumps in div 3 and up to 2500 rpms maybe 3000. it said no dual exhaust in either classes though. i dont pull that heavy so it doesnt bother me. i won enough classes with the moline for the last 2 years that i dont mind losing a few now. there are alot of confusion at pulls over little stuff and it happens everwhere that i know of but we just go with it and keep having fun. also i hooked that pump up at full pressure and it runs like it should now. it must have needed alot of fuel to get it going. thanks for your input on my problem.

 

[HollywoodYearwood]

Glad to hear you got it fixed. We migth see eachother at some pulls later on.