WC Clutch

[Mark Peterson]

Hello,

I beleive the clutch ahs gone bad in my 40' WC, I can get it ne gear, but when I release the cluth no grip or movement. Is it correct to assume the clutch has gone bad? How hard of a job it it to change?

Thanks,
Mark

 

[old]

Yep sounds like its gone. You need to pull the engine to put in a new clutch. If you do it I would replace the clutch disk, pressure plate, throw out bearing and pilot bearing and be done with it for decades. Not to bad a job to do if you have the right tools for the job. Engine hoist etc
Hobby farm

 

[old]

Yep sounds like its gone. You need to pull the engine to put in a new clutch. If you do it I would replace the clutch disk, pressure plate, throw out bearing and pilot bearing and be done with it for decades. Not to bad a job to do if you have the right tools for the job. Engine hoist etc
Hobby farm

 

[Mark Peterson]

Is it possible to leave the engine in the frame, support the frame, and roll the rear assembly away to change it?

 

[Anonymous-0]

I guess anything is possible - but would it be easier? I think the easiest and quickest is to pull the engine. I think pulling the rear axel would be a lot more difficult. The toughest part of pulling the engine is often dis-connecting the steering shaft and removing the radiator. But if you have luck, it can be pulled in an hour or two.

It is very very helpful to have an engine hoist. I have pulled everyone I've done so far with a chain hoist from above - sometimes on the bucket of a front end loader - sometimes on the rafters. Now I have an engine hoist and all mine are rebuilt - I always seem to get tools after I need them rather than before.

 

[Mark Peterson]

Thanks TD and old,

I beleive experience from you will tell me to "not reinvent the wheel", and pull the engine. Are there any special tools I amy need for this other than a cherry picker?

 

[Jerry Coulter]

You didn't shift the lever into neutral for the live power lift did you? We used to get calls for a clutch job when all it took was to shift that lever.

 

[old]

You might be able to but it is easier to pull the engine then to do it that way. I know I can have the engine out of one in less then an hour and then back in in about an hour.
Hobby farm

 

[Anonymous-0]

A good socket set and a set of box end/open end wrenches are necessary. If the knuckle on the steering shaft has the original pin, you'll need a 5/16" punch and a ball peen hammer. A lot of these had the pin replaced with a bolt in which case, it is easier to remove. You'll need to remove the pin from the starting crank shaft so it will stay forward out of the way. Actually, the pin is on the shaft at the end of the spring. When you remove this pin, the shaft will go forward another inch or two (it isn't the pin that engages the pulley). Never hurts to have an IT manual. Screwdrivers for the hoses are needed. And you'll probably need a couple of pry bars once the engine is free to move it ahead a couple inches before lifting.

 

[old]

Clutch alimnet tool is a most. You can buy one new at any good auto parts store for around $15 and it you take care of it, it will last 100 plus years. Other then that common tools are all that is needed. If you look in my web site you will see a picture of my WC Speed patrol I pulled the engine on it and drop in a different engine and it took me less then 10 hours total and that was pulling both engines and putting one back in
Hobby farm

 

[Anonymous-0]

Jerry is absolutely correct. The lever is directly below the steering wheel. It is odd to go so completely so quickly.

 

[Mark Peterson]

TD and old,
Thanks for the info, which manual the service manual or parts manual? I should be good on the tools, where is the best place to purchase the clutch, disc, throw out, and pilot bearing from?

 

[Mark Peterson]

Well, one of the bearings has been squeeling a little bit for some time now, I wouldn't be surprised if it's completely out. I have never noticed a lever below the steering wheel other than the two lever that engage and run the PTO without moving? I checked these at the time when it went out, but I was a little delirious at 10:00 at night trying to finish haying, I will check them again, unless ther is another lever?

 

[Bill(Wis)]

The lever they're talking about was a lever that disconnected a dog clutch in the drive train so that you could use the power lift without moving the tractor. It was not a part of the power lift package and most WC's with power lift didn't have it. It had to be ordered separately and if your WC doesn't have it it's probably a clutch problem. Not difficult to fix but you'll have to pull the engine.

 

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