We lost another young tractor operator

[Bonnan]

As reported in this week's Farm & Dairy a 28 year old Trumbull Cty, Ohio Man died after his tractor overturned, pinning him and catching fire. He was pulling large logs out of woods.

 

[Bob]

Apparently, a chlorination of the gene pool if he couldn't even tow a couple of logs without trying for the Darwin Award!

 

[Dunk]

(quoted from post at 23:46:17 07/30/09) Apparently, a chlorination of the gene pool if he couldn't even tow a couple of logs without trying for the Darwin Award!

A little on the harsh side over a death, but I still happen to agree.

 

[Dunk]

(quoted from post at 00:00:26 07/31/09)

(quoted from post at 23:46:17 07/30/09) Apparently, a chlorination of the gene pool if he couldn't even tow a couple of logs without trying for the Darwin Award!

A little on the harsh side over a death, but I still happen to agree.

Ell, these guys around here think I am stupid for running a bush hog behind a '49 8N for 25 years WITHOUT an ORC, and a clean no accident record.

IMO it all boils down to they aren't careful, or experienced enough, to handle it.

I watched a video of Sean, with a bush hog, and an ORC.

Even on the computer, my mind was freekin, cause of the ORC, and saying, I know better than to operate one like that, cause I have never owned an ORC.

But I have always ran without one.

 

[Jimmyjack]

I feel very sorry for this young person and his family. Im a tree farmer and skid logs all the time. Skidding logs in the woods is extremely dangerous, not like around the yard or farm. Many things can happen in uneven ground and unknown conditions even if you have the best of equipment which unfortunately not all of us have. I would be the last person to make lite of a poor soul that lost his life trying to make or save a buck.

 

[Jimmyjack]

Not only the guys around there think it. An ORC is a fantastic invention for a rotary mower.

 

[Dunk]

(quoted from post at 00:12:50 07/31/09) Not only the guys around there think it. An ORC is a fantastic invention for a rotary mower.

But you will never know the advantages to knowing how to use an N tractor without one, cause you don't have that experience, I on the other hand have 25 years of it.

I know my tractor, it and I are as one, when we work.

I use that inertia to my advantage, and know how to rectify the disadvantage.

Yall safety [b:5d05d8394a][u:5d05d8394a]freaks[/u:5d05d8394a][/b:5d05d8394a] will never know that.

 

[Anonymous-0]

I don't need one because of my LPTO on my Massey 135 but if I had an N-series I would have one right away.There are just too many trees and other obstacles around here.

 

[Windy]

Some of us appear to be pretty hard core when it comes to feelings. But I don"t judge.
It rains on the just and the un-just.

Prayers for the family... & safety to all you guys!
windy

 

[Sean (TX)]

(quoted from post at 23:07:11 07/30/09)

(quoted from post at 00:00:26 07/31/09)

(quoted from post at 23:46:17 07/30/09) Apparently, a chlorination of the gene pool if he couldn't even tow a couple of logs without trying for the Darwin Award!

A little on the harsh side over a death, but I still happen to agree.

Ell, these guys around here think I am stupid for running a bush hog behind a '49 8N for 25 years WITHOUT an ORC, and a clean no accident record.

IMO it all boils down to they aren't careful, or experienced enough, to handle it.

I watched a video of Sean, with a bush hog, and an ORC.

Even on the computer, my mind was freekin, cause of the ORC, and saying, I know better than to operate one like that, cause I have never owned an ORC.

But I have always ran without one.

[b:2173191e30]Was it the one of me going in reverse after I put on the new ujoint? You should get one Dunk!! Power company was working on the power lines down the street a couple weeks ago. One of the line men stopped by.
He was thinking about getting rid of his wifes grandfathers 8N...Cuz he couldnt stop LOL...Showed him my ORC...Get ya one buddy...50 bucks at tractor supply[/b:2173191e30]

 

[Kenster]

Dunk, I understand what you're saying. You're far more experienced than I am. But, is there a [i:1f760defbb]downside[/i:1f760defbb] to running an ORC? To me, it's one of those things that just can't hurt to have. And, for a rookie tractor driver, why would you want to discourage him from working safe.

I guess I don't need brakes on my 8n cause I don't ever use them. I control my speed with the throttle and the clutch. But... just in case... it's nice to knows that the brakes are there.

Cheers!

 

[Dunk]

(quoted from post at 11:51:57 08/01/09) Dunk, I understand what you're saying. You're far more experienced than I am. But, is there a [i:4703143a89]downside[/i:4703143a89] to running an ORC? To me, it's one of those things that just can't hurt to have. And, for a rookie tractor driver, why would you want to discourage him from working safe.

I guess I don't need brakes on my 8n cause I don't ever use them. I control my speed with the throttle and the clutch. But... just in case... it's nice to knows that the brakes are there.

Cheers!

To honestly answer your question, yes there is a plus.

Keep in mind that I am NOT telling anyone to run their bush hog without an ORC, It is a great saftey add on, I am telling you my experience from a perspective of owning a '49 8N, and a bush hog for 25 years, and never having an ORC

Let me see if I can explain it and make understandable.

With an ORC when you push in the clutch, your tractor stops, so does the PTO, and lift as well, and if your lift leaks, your bush hog drops all the way down, or even if it doesn't leak, the bush hog may be down too low for the tractor to turn it.

What then happens if you are in very heavy, or very rough stuff?

You can't lift the bush hog because it is clogged and jambed on the ground, or in the grass, about your only choice is to disengage the PTO and drag it off to somewhere you can get the PTO back in gear, and the lift back, and bush hog back to turning.

Now without an ORC, if I am bush hogging heavy stuff like that, and I start bogging my engine down, I start clutching it, keeping the engine and flywheel inertia up, and while I am pushing in the clutch to let the engine gain momentum, the bush hog is still pushing, moving the PTO and still allowing the pump to lift, and still moving the tractor forward, and I can turn a little to get back in my last pass that has already been cut.

Most of the time I can recover if I am paying attention, and grab the lift, and clutch it a few times, without having to go to all of the trouble of disengaging the PTO and pulling it out of the stuff that I am in.

I hope that makes sense.

I think you might be surprised at how quickly I can stop the tractor with the bush hog pushing it, by simply using the engine compression to do it, throwing the throttle to nill, and not pushing the clutch in, till the hog is slowed down.

That doesn't even mention my, for the last 2 years, working brakes, that I have finally started getting used to having.

BTW: My current bush hog shaft is 1 1/8", just like the PTO.

I don't think you will find a 1 1/8" on both ends, ORC.