weigh stations?

[Anonymous-0]

When you guys haul your tractors a far distance, or are going to pick up a new treasure do you stop at weigh stations?

 

[tim s]

In Ohio "all" big trucks and pick ups with trailers must go through the weigh stations "if" they are open...

 

[gregger]

illinois is anything over 8 ton must weigh

 

[larryanderson]

I dont but if you are over 26000 truck and trailer they can write you for no cdl,med card log book,#s on truck and inspection.This has happened but it usually if you are out of state.Tractors are suppose to be chained in four spots w/chains that meet DOT minimum.The farmer excuse doesnt always work as you are actually commercial as you are hoping to make a profit and if they want to even a trophy is compensation.I am from Ia and the Farm Bureau has been lobbying against some of this.You can pull a huge 5th wheel camper with too small of a truck and never have a problem.I know of people that have drove by scale and were stopped but it is rare.I have been passed on interstate by DOT cars with questionable loads and they just wave.They like to create revenue as the budget is far from balanced.I actually have most out of my state tractors commercially hauled to not have to worry.

 

[tim s]

That's the way it is in Ohio too Larry, to get a non-commercial lisc. for a semi I must send a 2290 form to Cinn. to have some one stamp, when ever they get around to it, then show it to a registrar to get my tag, My bro. and I sent ours in 5 weeks ago still don't have them back. They want to make it harder to obtain a non-commercial tag,,and it's working....more ways for the Gov. to stifle our world and lively hood ...The gov. is like the opposing team to the working men...

 

[60jds]

we stopped in a station on I71 before with the livestock trailer haulin a couple head of calves to a show and they told us not to stop anymore. we dont stop with the pickup truck and 14k pound flat trailer hauling tractors outta state and have not been stopped before.

 

[Anonymous-0]

So what u guys r saying is that becaues I would be traveling through three states I should probably just get someone else to haul them. I have no desire to get a cdl or special plates when all I usually do is haul local to pulls fairs and shows.. I dont understand why they make it so complicated.. Seems silly for me with an f250 diesel that's my daily driver to have to jump through all these hoops..

 

[tim s]

My Bro. by-passed one on I70 a couple of years ago with a pick up and Goose neck,,they chased him down and asked him what was he think'in by "not" stopping..he played stupid and they let him go,,I guess it's depends on the trooper and what kind of day he is having...

 

[tim s]

It may or May not go well for you,,,it's our Governments way of making thinks difficult...load restrictions and limits vary from state to state, like going into a different country....it shouldn't be this way,,and how did it ever evolve to this ????

 

[Machinery-Man]

I would say you run into some gray areas with the old tractors. One can"t beg out and say I"m farming, not going from one farm to another, neither does the D.O.T. which is now under homeland security (supposed to protect us) can they destinguish between something for resale, and a hobby. I always had D.O.T. markings on my vehicle if I was going from state to state. But this does entail the medical card and proper weight hauling equipment. Never hauled anything for a fee (here in Ky. it is illegal unless you have commerical plates) Guess what I"m saying is I wouldn"t even attempt much of it if any now....

 

[wilamayb]

I think what most are missing here is that if you are hauling your own tractor on your own truck you fall under the "recreation" category which doesnt eliminate you from being DOT compliant but does prevent you from being a "commercial vehicle" and would mean that you have no reason to stop in a weigh station.

You do in fact neeed a health card and you do in fact need to have the load secured properly and have your truck and trailer DOT compliant.

 

[larryanderson]

Happy Days there is no reason to hire someone if you are in compliance.Different states interpret the law differently.We still have semis but only for farm use but did haul seed for 15yrs commercially and the weigh stations were usually worth driving around if possible.If your trailer is single tandem axle and pickup is not a dually you are more than likely under 26000 and are not required to stop.That still does not mean they cant stop you for violations.I actually went to a meeting to try and be legal and they could not agree either.I do know out of state licence vehicles are more likely to get a ticket.I know of a young man who borrowed a G.N. trailer to pick up his tractor and as soon as he got into Ia the fine was $913 .His new pickup had 300 mi on it and one fine was for no inspection,plus all the rest.

 

[Ray]

In ohio there going to pavement moniters to weigh trucks.There's one near my house.They can weigh a truck by each axle and speed of travel as the truck goes over the moniter in the road.The state patol can see each trucks weight and speed through a laptop.

 

[Forge Farmer]

I saw several references to 26000 lb gross weight. In Pennsylvania anything over 17000 combination you need a medical card and DOT number. Really makes it tough for the little guy.

 

[Anonymous-0]

It is confusing. I often drive a dually pick up with a 38' trailer for a university hauling racing shells (57'). They are light but very long. I have never stopped at weigh stations. In 25 years we only got pulled over once. When we crossed into Md. we blew by one and a trooper pulled us over and asked if we were driving for a school team or for a boat manufacturer. We said school and he said thanks you are fine have a nice day, no need to stop at weigh stations. If you were hauling for commerce you do. We often got hassled about length which is another can of worms because boat haulers are special equipment and a lot of cops haven't read that part of the law. We carry copies of the federal regs. with us.

 

[Dean Olson]

I have a 3/4 ton Dodge and a 25'x14 k gooseneck. I NEVER stop and got a warning 1 time for not having an inspection on the trailer. That was a new requirement in TX several years ago.

 

[larryanderson]

Dean ,your trailer would fall in the under 26000 category where no CDL,#s,med cards,log books, apply.My 32FT G.N w/12,000 # tandem dual wheels plus 1 ton single wheel reg cab diesel Ford put me over but due to the current confusion and inconsistency with what is correct in Ia I will continue to bypass the scales.I have a CDL and med card and log books are not needed in a 100 mi radius unless you went farther in the 4 previous days.I am staying in state.It is confusing .

 

[wilamayb]

Larry, that rule is only true for non-combination vehicle (truck only). All the above rules apply for combination vehicles with a combined rating of 10,000# or more. If your truck is rated for 10,000 and your trailer for 14,000 then that puts you up to 24,000 which is 14,000 greater than the breaking point for DOT laws. These guidelines are National DOT.

So if we followed the law and were concerned about being legal we all need a health card to pull our goosenecks or even our tandem axle trailers. I actually have my class A CDL and a health card because I occasionally have to drive a semi at work.

The only way to get under the 10,000 pound rule is to use a half ton truck with a single axle trailer and some newer half tons have such a heavy GVRW that even many single axle trailers will put you over the limit.

 

[60jds]

where is that at so i can go around not fun hauling two tractors on a gooseneck and a pick up. im a little over