(quoted from post at 21:06:28 10/27/14) na actually tim got me straight on all of this but I did run out of time to pull pump out again,instead ,I pulled the front dry sump drain out,caught all the oil,then put it bacvk in ,and pulled the front screen out,it was not stopped up,but was dirty enough to leave it out and put in a new one I always had in storage,and like you all saying,the oil pump is draining into the rear slowly,i believe that,and see it happening,but problem is now the time to pull it back out,and I will pull it back out,although I didn't see no damage to it,i didn't have my set of micrometers to check sizes closely,but all mesh together real nicely,and I did go to john deere today once I got back from farm and got some o rings I did need,and checked on the gears,they are about 200 each,not bad for the time it takes to cut your stock,bore out the hole,cut the keyway,then machine the o.d.,then the overall length,then cut the teeth in a 4th axis,and then send to heat treating ,I think the new gears is the best route to go once I take the micrometers to it,then check the flat plate in between for being warped or out of tolerance too,it cant hardly be out of tolerance much by looking at it the other day,the coloring of an oiled wheel turning in an area like this is common,and I see no bad wear on it,but the human eye cant tell wear either,im thinking about.0005 isn't too bad in tolerance,comes out to half thousandth,im haven't loked in my technical manual,but the flats on the gears,well im thinking they can be withing .ooo2 shouldn't hurt much,what im after id to look closer at the distance of where the teeth mesh at,that will tell me a lot more,the pin seems to have no wear on it by looking but the micrometers will tell the story on runout too,but never use a caliper,its only for reference,so I will leave it at home,just cant wait to get tractor turned all the way to the right again and pull pump out,more than anything I want to see just how close the tolerances are to be within limits of changing out,all keys were in ,so it don't leave much more to go wrong,im thinking from being around some of the union carbide pumps we used to build,that it might have a tolerance of .001 to the sides,if that,looks to be a very close fit thing we are dealing with,now I do remember reassembling it lasdt week,i didn't torque it to specs,but a little over,and gears did get a little snugger fitting,and that shouldn't be that mucgh to affect it,i am going to lap all areas of the pump faces if theres no warpage,but probably will buy all new gears,and center plate,and fron and rear plate to be safe and reassemble,torque right then see what tractor does,wont know this week because of other things I got going for some race bikes ive been building up,ill keep checking in with you guys too,thanks for the advice you all are helping me with,and I did have pump out once but all looked good,but I didn't take my micrometers because I didn't expect to need them,now had a gear been broke,id understand it,but theres no broke gears,so ill take tims advise,,just change it