Another Loader identification help thread

[Smiles79]

Yesterday I picked up a David Brown 990 and I would like some help identifying the loader so I can get a bucket for it. It looks like it has been modified from single to dual tilt cylinders. I cannot find any model or serial numbers on it.

https://imgur.com/a/kYbJTya

 

[SDMike]

My guess would be JD model 58 arms and uprights. I have a 48, and my arms are not as straight looking as the 58. The problem you are going to have is that a factory 48 or 58 bucket has a single tip cylinder mount. A bucket from a 148 or 158 loader "might" fit since they have twin tip cylinders, but you will probably have to end up buying a bucket and making mounts to fit your modified loader. If you are going that far, look into making it a quick attach so that you can switch between forks to bucket like a skid loader. Best of Luck.

Mike

 

[Smiles79]

Thanks. Looks close. On mine the lift cylinders pin on the outside of the towers but maybe that's not right. Any resources for building a quick attach?

 

[WI Dan]

Yesterday I picked up a David Brown 990 and I would like some help identifying the loader so I can get a bucket for it. It looks like it has been modified from single to dual tilt cylinders. I cannot find any model or serial numbers on it.

https://imgur.com/a/kYbJTya

It's heavily modified. Even the original bucket might not fit any longer.

 

[Smiles79]

It's heavily modified. Even the original bucket might not fit any longer.

Can you expand on that please?

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

Can you expand on that please?

That loader did not originally have tilt cylinders for the bucket. It was what's called a trip bucket, where you pulled a lever that released a catch that caused the bucket to dump. The bucket style is very different from one that uses tilt cylinders to dump.

Honestly you're not going to be able to buy a bucket "for" that loader. You will need to have one made or modified to fit. For that, the brand and model of the loader is meaningless. The fabricator that will be making/modifying the bucket will want measurements. Such as, distance between the loader arms, width of the loader arms, pin diameter, distance between the lower boom pins and cylinder pins, and possibly other measurements.

 

[Smiles79]

That loader did not originally have tilt cylinders for the bucket. It was what's called a trip bucket, where you pulled a lever that released a catch that caused the bucket to dump. The bucket style is very different from one that uses tilt cylinders to dump.

Honestly you're not going to be able to buy a bucket "for" that loader. You will need to have one made or modified to fit. For that, the brand and model of the loader is meaningless. The fabricator that will be making/modifying the bucket will want measurements. Such as, distance between the loader arms, width of the loader arms, pin diameter, distance between the lower boom pins and cylinder pins, and possibly other measurements.

Good to know, thanks!

 

[Smiles79]

Well I think I figured it out. I saw "C16741" on the lift lift cylinders and when I googled it I kept seeing reference to the John Deere 37 loader. Pictures of that loader seem to match mine

 

[used red MN]

I would have never guessed that Deere would have produced or put their name on a loader that has no outboard support for the pins that anchor the bottom of the main frame lift cylinders. It looks like they did though. Example JD 37 loader
Obviously it has been modified, but I certainly thought it had a lot of heft and structure up front to only be a trip loader.

 

[Smiles79]

Yeah the cantilevered pin surprised me also.

Any thoughts on where to find a cylinder rebuild kit for the lift cylinders?

 

[used red MN]

Yeah the cantilevered pin surprised me also.

Any thoughts on where to find a cylinder rebuild kit for the lift cylinders?

John Deere? This is a link to the old parts book. To see if they still carry them you need to transfer the PNs into the “New” parts book. And FYI if you put them in the cart in the old parts book they will be dumped when you transition to the new one. These diagrams aren’t in the new book. PIA. JD 37 loader
Other options, Baum Iron or local hydraulic repair shop.

 

[Smiles79]

John Deere? This is a link to the old parts book. To see if they still carry them you need to transfer the PNs into the “New” parts book. And FYI if you put them in the cart in the old parts book they will be dumped when you transition to the new one. These diagrams aren’t in the new book. PIA. JD 37 loader
Other options, Baum Iron or local hydraulic repair shop.

Thank you!

 

[WI Dan]

Good to know, thanks!

Barnyard covered it for me!

The unit was done well, but it's not completely strong, so don't use it for extremely heavy loads. It'll still come in handy for stuff around the yard.
Good looking hydraulic hoses, those appear brand new!

 

[Smiles79]

John Deere? This is a link to the old parts book. To see if they still carry them you need to transfer the PNs into the “New” parts book. And FYI if you put them in the cart in the old parts book they will be dumped when you transition to the new one. These diagrams aren’t in the new book. PIA. JD 37 loader
Other options, Baum Iron or local hydraulic repair shop.

That worked great! Found a parts diagram and got all the parts on order for $60. Seems reasonablish.

 

[jwal10]

I had a #37 on a 1020 that I bought used. It had 1 single tilt cylinder with a modern style bucket. Might even be able to get a new replacement. Otherwise buy a replacement bucket and weld the brackets on as needed. Maybe find a loader on a tractor to get measurements. Here is a picture of one, below....James

Hibid

 

[m16ty]

You likely wont find a bucket to fit that loader. Best you can do is just find a bucket roughly the right size and get out the torch and welder.

 

[Smiles79]

You likely wont find a bucket to fit that loader. Best you can do is just find a bucket roughly the right size and get out the torch and welder.

Good thing I've got both of those!

 

[m16ty]

That worked great! Found a parts diagram and got all the parts on order for $60. Seems reasonablish.

Just for future reference, you can take the cylinder apart and take it to your local hydraulic shop and likely get a kit for half that price.

 

[m16ty]

Thanks. Looks close. On mine the lift cylinders pin on the outside of the towers but maybe that's not right. Any resources for building a quick attach?

I built a Westendorf quick attach one time. Honestly though, for the time I had in it I would have probably been better off to just buy. I do still make the Westendorf quick attach piece that goes on the attachment, they are easy with just a piece of angle and a plate on top and bottom with a hole.

 

[m16ty]

Good thing I've got both of those!

Just don’t expect too much out of it. Those loaders weren’t all that strong and it doesn’t look mounted the best. Moving hay and scooping loose material should be fine, but you go to digging dirt and stumps you’ll likely have problems.