chisel plow question

[Mike(NEOhio)]

How much tractor would it take to pull a JD 10-shank in sod? Would it work to rejuvenate my hay fields. They're weedy, rough and in need of lime and fertilizer. I never used a chisel plow, would that and disking after work? I want to do one field at a time. Have an Oliver 1550 and a late JD A.

 

[flying belgian]

Old rule of thumb on chisel plow,,, 12 hp per shank.

 

[Muir hill 101]

Depend on the chisel plow ? True depth shanks ? Or one like mine that is 60 years old John Deere 100 I pull 15 shanks with a 3020 on the old 100 . If you are talking true depth shanks 12 or 14 inches deep you are going to want about 150 or 180 horsepower and either mfwd or lot of ballast and duals .

 

[paul]

As Hill says, it depends on the chisel plow. I pulled a 7 shank with 145hp and that was a load, now 9 shank with 210 hp, but this is twisted 3 inch shovels they just about turn the ground over like a real plow.

The old 10 shank with 2 inch straight shovels I pulled with 85 hp and did ok, but it was sometimes hard to see what it was doing, didnt stir up the ground much.

I think timing would be important. Sod likes to come up in big chunks and its tough to beat those down into a nice seed Ned without a bit of time, rains, and multiple passes with a disk and drag.

Sandier ground is easier, the heavy clay stuff I have is more difficult.

Paul

 

[caterpillar guy]

If you are going to try to renovate hay fields already into alfalfa you want them to be out of hay for a year like into corn or wheat,beans something like that for the toxicity from the previous alfalfa stand. If just a grass seeding then disregard. If you don't have discs on the front of your chisel plow and don't want wads and gobs from the sod then disc it a couple times first this will cut the sod up some so that it will not be such big wads and gobs. this will help it work down better too. With a 1550 you will not be very deep with it or you will need to go over it a couple times. To do a good job you will want to be more like about 4-5 shanks only. Like Flying Belgian said about 10-15 HP per shank. with 3 inch twisted shovels.

 

[jon f mn]

Use a molboard plow and you will be happier.

 

[rrlund]

You wouldn't pull 4 with the 1550. A chisel in sod is a real bad idea. I tried it once after discing first. It was so rough I about shook my guts out discing it five times or more to even get it half way level. I'll never make that mistake again. I'm afraid I'd break a rib or something.

 

[Leroy]

I don't know how they ever came up with that low a number, must have been very easy working ground or already worked ground. Figure 20 HP per shank is more like it. If you are trying to go only 5 inches deep then that 12 might do it. Had a chisel for a few years because of goverment rulls on highly eroadable ground On that in beand ground could get a decent job, stalks no. At home could get the unit to not work. Sold it as soon as no longer having the rented ground. I Hated it and job it tid. Sod forget it could not even get it deep enough to break up sod with the 3 inch twisted shovels. This is western Ohio. The Ford 5000 would not pull the 7 shank that was made for it, take 2 off and still would not do decent job. An N series Ford was supposed to pull a 2-14 plow, 2 rounds when dealer brought out new tractor and plow and loaded up plow and went back and brought out a 2-12 plow and it worked,

 

[Mike(NEOhio)]

OK, thanks for all the advice. I guess that idea is out. Better start looking for a 3-bottom.

 

[Muir hill 101]

Whatever you do start with the primary tillage in the fall then let it winter over until spring it will work down a whole lot easier Ive used the chisel plow and moldboard plow to do what your doing either will work fine .

 

[Muir hill 101]

This was the end of November got a little bit of a late start by spring the humps jumps and bumps are gone

 

[Muir hill 101]

A chisel plow is more versatile as well you can run points to break out the sod then put wheatland sweeps on to finish the seedbed

 

[Alvin 41]

I wouldn't do much tillage unless there is a bad compaction problem or you don't want to spray to establish legumes. Just level if necessary and get as much oats,rye,etc and grass growing as soon as possible.

 

[cleddy]

How many chisel plow shanks can I pull behind a 9-N Ford? Recently set up a 3 point tool bar on the back and not wanting to go real deep. I have various types of cultivator shovels? Cleddy

 

[VicS]

Well your 2 bottom plow covers 28. So don't expect to be much wider. So I will say 3 shanks. And if you go very deep just 1. Saw a old you tube with a 8N. It was pulling 1.

 

[Bud Sather in MT]

When I break up a hay field my process is 1 disk it 2 ways this cuts the grass from the plant and helps level the field 2 I put twisted spikes on the cultivator throwing the dirt to the inside (there are left and right sides). My first pass is with the spikes is 1-2 inches deep. The next pass is one inch deeper and that process continues until it is worked as deep as I want it. It really helps to pull a drag behind the cultivator. 3 After that process is complete it is time for the disk with a drag until it is smooth enough to seed. Each time you go over it drive at a different angle. Works best if the field was sprayed to kill the grass in the fall before you want to work it up. Bud