electric ignition

[Old Mo Iron]

Is the pertronix electric ignition make a big enough difference to justify the cost. thanks

 

[bobidan]

absolutely ive installed 3 of them and am very pleased

 

[Anonymous-0]

(quoted from post at 14:47:48 06/12/11) Is the pertronix electric ignition make a big enough difference to justify the cost. thanks

alot better systems out there for the same money.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Are you sure spanky? can you tell us what one is the best? wouldnt it be different for every application? do you run a resistor or not?

 

[Anonymous-0]

(quoted from post at 17:32:19 06/12/11) Are you sure spanky? can you tell us what one is the best? wouldnt it be different for every application? do you run a resistor or not?

:idea: any ignition system that can handle a low resistances performance coil without the use of a resistor is better.

 

[Anonymous-0]

(quoted from post at 17:32:19 06/12/11) Are you sure spanky? can you tell us what one is the best? wouldnt it be different for every application? do you run a resistor or not?

abox pro coil is my prefernce andrea what i ran.coil cost what a petronix assembly runs. Ran a 16 volt battery as well. Mel saw it at his visit.

 

[jd plowboy]

i think it is worth it. i have them in my two pullers and they work great as far as i am concerned. most clubs in the stock class wont let you run any thing else but the pertronix i know at least around my part of the country.

 

[Anonymous-0]

(quoted from post at 17:32:19 06/12/11) Are you sure spanky? can you tell us what one is the best? wouldnt it be different for every application? do you run a resistor or not?

abox pro coil is my prefernce andrea what i ran.coil cost what a petronix assembly runs. Ran a 16 volt battery as well. Mel saw it at his visit.

 

[RandyB(MI)]

As far as being cost effective ( ie, return on your investment) it won't even rival additional cu. in. , increased compression , blueprinted/performance cam , breathing augumentations (manifold/valves/porting). In other words , if you've allready done everything else then by all means go electronic , but it should be your last $100 you spend on it. Put on a hot coil and good wires as that's where you will see the bennefit , not the "switch" itself.

 

[RandyB(MI)]

What you experienced is not uncommon. Most used distributers have worn bushings and the shaft/breaker cam can, and does, move out of spec while running which can, and does, cause dwell variances. Installing a "breakerless" switch which doesn't contact the cam therefore will cure the problem. New bushings in the distributer will do the same thing. I still say , if you see a noticable difference after installing "Pertronics" only , then your original system had a problem to begin with.

 

[VicS]

Good point, They are a quick cure. Vic

 

[buickanddeere]

If the engine has higher than stock ignition demands. From high rpm, high compression and exotic fuels. Then yes.
How many high energy sparks a minute does a 2500rpm, 7 to 1 compression, four or six cylinder tractor engine require?
Vs. the same points, coil and ballast resistor. In a 9 to 1 compression V8 car turning 5000rpm?

 

[Anonymous-0]

alot of the problems I have seen with tractor ignition is the cap post being so close together that a performance coil needing a longer saturation time to produce the highest spark energy at the plug doesnt happen with small caps. then when going to a cd box to help a coil with a higher voltage supply and less needed saturation time the small plug cap spacing cross arcs.

 

[Anonymous-0]

(quoted from post at 04:45:41 06/14/11)
it would be interesting to fire a tractor engine from a crank trigger(CPS) and a coil pack/computer like the modern cars, no moving parts.


probably would take a fortune, but I had a 95 ford ranger 4 banger with a efi fuel injection. powerful little motor. it would be interesting to retrofit the modern technology to these old tractor engines, just to see if there was any significant increase on the dyno.


Andy

i have been looking at the midget series engines for a while even posted pictures on here of a few . Before iwent to the crank triggered ignition iwould have the dry sump oil system and the fuel injection system causeq i don't have a two barrel and a rigged up wet sump oil pump.

 

[wi50]

(quoted from post at 12:45:41 06/14/11)
it would be interesting to fire a tractor engine from a crank trigger(CPS) and a coil pack/computer like the modern cars, no moving parts.


probably would take a fortune, but I had a 95 ford ranger 4 banger with a efi fuel injection. powerful little motor. it would be interesting to retrofit the modern technology to these old tractor engines, just to see if there was any significant increase on the dyno.


Andy

I run a small block chevy fluid dampner on the front of my crankshaft. It's pretty simple to turn the nose of the crank and install one. The main reason is for safety, those old cast parts are dangerous at high rpm.

It's an easy install to put on a crank trigger wheel. The ones for a V8 have 4 magnets, on the 4 cyl tractor engine, simply remove 2 magnets.

MSD makes what is called a "Midget" system. It's simple, it uses a signal from the crank trigger wheel. It's nothing more than an ignition controll and coil packs.

I eliminate all the hardware and inaccuracy of my old distributer setup.

So I bought a crank trigger kit, but I haven't installed it yet. I've been debateing to buy a Midget system and be done with the whole works.

It's about $900 to do this, if buying the parts from a retailer like Summit raceing, Jegs or other suppliers it's about
$250 for a crank trigger kit
$650 for the Midget.


Or if one runs the distributer and a MSD 6 or 7 series ignition, one can use the crank trigger for a pickup, but figure the cost of everything and in the end, it only costs the difference, and the difference isn't that much in the end. A couple hundred bucks.

I figure that I may as well order the Midget and be done with it if I have any more issues, I'm not going to spend a little here or there to patch this or that or try and re invent the wheel. Time will tell, but it will give someone something to be jelous of.....

I had bought some parts for my new engine that is in the works. It was going to have the MSD Midget system, and I pick up a few items now and then when I find a deal on them, hence the crank trigger wheel. I was going fuel injected, but not electronic. A 3.75" Rons Flying toilet would do a great job. I like the mechanical systems for tractor pulling, the electronic ones are neat, but mechanical is simple and works.

In the end, there's nothing wrong with a plain old Delco distributer on the Farmall, Petronix electronic ignition kit, and a good coil and wires. It's probably better than it needs to be. Add a MSD 6a or 6al and you either like it or must made headaches.

 

[Anonymous-0]

I wouldn't worry about purchasing the electronic ignition. If you keep on protesting tractors in your class like you did at Lamonte, then there will not be any tractors in your class and you could win anyway! Heck, if you want to protest, then make sure you get the obvious-the most important one-there is an 88 Oliver running with a 310 Waukishaw in it, and that is not the stock block-hence forth the tractor will be illegal in the Brush Pullers of Missouri pulls according to their rules.

 

[Anonymous-0]

(quoted from post at 19:32:34 06/15/11) I wouldn't worry about purchasing the electronic ignition. If you keep on protesting tractors in your class like you did at Lamonte, then there will not be any tractors in your class and you could win anyway! Heck, if you want to protest, then make sure you get the obvious-the most important one-there is an 88 Oliver running with a 310 Waukishaw in it, and that is not the stock block-hence forth the tractor will be illegal in the Brush Pullers of Missouri pulls according to their rules.

Inquiring minds want to know . You mean he goes to his first pull in ten years and crys about another tractor. Do tell

 

[wi50]

(quoted from post at 03:32:34 06/16/11) I wouldn't worry about purchasing the electronic ignition. If you keep on protesting tractors in your class like you did at Lamonte, then there will not be any tractors in your class and you could win anyway! Heck, if you want to protest, then make sure you get the obvious-the most important one-there is an 88 Oliver running with a 310 Waukishaw in it, and that is not the stock block-hence forth the tractor will be illegal in the Brush Pullers of Missouri pulls according to their rules.

just for you spankster, I don't know where Lamont is but it's no where near here. I'm a long way from Missouri. Maybe you can run your IP adress test on the 1puller1winner and find out where it comes up from.

 

[Anonymous-0]

(quoted from post at 19:56:01 06/18/11)

(quoted from post at 03:32:34 06/16/11) I wouldn't worry about purchasing the electronic ignition. If you keep on protesting tractors in your class like you did at Lamonte, then there will not be any tractors in your class and you could win anyway! Heck, if you want to protest, then make sure you get the obvious-the most important one-there is an 88 Oliver running with a 310 Waukishaw in it, and that is not the stock block-hence forth the tractor will be illegal in the Brush Pullers of Missouri pulls according to their rules.

just for you spankster, I don't know where Lamont is but it's no where near here. I'm a long way from Missouri.

I see you found it when it was pointed out to you twice. You really should read more thoroughly

 

[wi50]

1puller1winner was asking Tempola the question............ must have been some protesting going on in Lamonte and Tempola was asking about purchasing an electronic ignition unit.........

Get a clue Pankey

 

[Anonymous-0]

(quoted from post at 20:01:22 06/18/11) 1puller1winner was asking Tempola the question............ must have been some protesting going on in Lamonte and Tempola was asking about purchasing an electronic ignition unit.........

Get a clue Pankey

I know this is short and straight to the point makes it hard for long winded posters but the clue is NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT>

 

[wi50]

so you fella's don't get confused.

In another thread, Pankey was makeing up things about me again, so I had to tell him to please go read this thread, try and comprehend what was in it and that he had it all wrong...... again.

Trying to tell me that I protested some tractor, in a place called Lamonte. (but I'm certain Lamonte is in a state several states from here)But I'd never do that, have any of you seen all the "illegal" parts on mine? They are legal here, we don't have much for rules, and there is no protesting when there is no rules. It's pretty simple and we all have a good time.

Sorry for the wasted bandwidth. But I really don't need anyone makeing up any lies about me, so I just point out where to look for the truth.

 

[Anonymous-0]

(quoted from post at 20:57:28 06/18/11) so you fella's don't get confused.

In another thread, Pankey was makeing up things about me again, so I had to tell him to please go read this thread, try and comprehend what was in it and that he had it all wrong...... again.

Trying to tell me that I protested some tractor, in a place called Lamonte. (but I'm certain Lamonte is in a state several states from here)But I'd never do that, have any of you seen all the "illegal" parts on mine? They are legal here, we don't have much for rules, and there is no protesting when there is no rules. It's pretty simple and we all have a good time.

Sorry for the wasted bandwidth. But I really don't need anyone makeing up any lies about me, so I just point out where to look for the truth.

No lie made up . The guy doesnot name the individual and it was posted after your post so who is to say it was about tempola or you unless the poster coments.

 

[wi50]

The lie you made up is in your thread, mythbusterwi50" in which you tell me that I protested some tractor some place. (which I did not do)

Let me point out that part about "like you did in Lamonte" that is in the post from 1puller1winner when he is refering to the protesting takeing place at a pull in that town.

I'm sorry, but there is no Lamonte town around here...... I've never pulled in Lamonte, been to Lamonte or heard of the place. I do beleve it's several states away. There was also mention of "bursh pullers of Missouri". Again, several hundred miles from me.

you just got proven wrong again, if you'd quit trying to make up things about me, you may not look so bad on public forum.

Pankey, this crap is getting old. You really need to grow up.

 

[Anonymous-0]

(quoted from post at 21:16:07 06/18/11) The lie you made up is in your thread, mythbusterwi50" in which you tell me that I protested some tractor some place. (which I did not do)

Let me point out that part about "like you did in Lamonte" that is in the post from 1puller1winner when he is refering to the protesting takeing place at a pull in that town.

I'm sorry, but there is no Lamonte town around here...... I've never pulled in Lamonte, been to Lamonte or heard of the place. I do beleve it's several states away. There was also mention of "bursh pullers of Missouri". Again, several hundred miles from me.

you just got proven wrong again, if you'd quit trying to make up things about me, you may not look so bad on public forum.

Pankey, this crap is getting old. You really need to grow up.

yes it is . Whats the difference in you posting it the way you hear it and me posting the way I read it? grow up you do need to in years and cubic inches.