EV tractor sales

[GChief]

spouting off about some grand government conspiracy

That happens on social media

 

[showcrop]

BINGO!

How did the gov't. make JD spend the money on that?

 

[Leroy]

Remember, one of the reasons cars replaced horses was because Henry offered the Model T cheaper than a good driving team of horsed! Price point runs a new market!

Price will not mean anything if the all electric group get what theywant and that is NO Mining for any minerals to make the battries. and nothing to make the wind turbins with or splar pannels. You will have to have all that and will not be allowed to get it out of the ground. Everything for that will be comming from China or Rushia, not north America. If what you need to make things becomes unavaible price will not matter and it will be the end of the world as we know it because people will not be able to live any more as there will be no more food able to be grown. None of us may be alive to see it but that will be the end result.

 

[Fritz Maurer]

Pretty comical now that they are adding the word 'local' to the benefits... meaning it's ok to pollute somewhere else , just not in the vicinity of the machine. At least they're starting to acknowledge the truth.

That being said, I am not against this new technology. If it works and people want it, that's great. I'm kind of seeing myself evolving.... I used to be brand loyal and anti no-till but today all I want is the seed in the ground and I don't care how it gets there.

 

[scootergmc]

Remember, one of the reasons cars replaced horses was because Henry offered the Model T cheaper than a good driving team of horsed! Price point runs a new market!

You mean it wasn't rammed down our throats on the backs of taxpayers by the global climate cultists? For shame.

*pausing for the obligatory "backwards thinking" eye roll from GChief... I kid I kid

 

[JMOR]

Batteries 20 years ago weren't good enough. They have become better. I can't see any other way forward, too many people are against fossil fuel burning equipment. It might not really be feasible until the next good advancement in battery storage capability. At that point cars, trucks, buses, transport, tractors and possibly even ocean shipping will all be electric. Fossil fuel burning machinery will be more antiquated than the horse and buggy is to us now.

', too many people are against fossil fuel burning". you watch too much of wrong channels

 

[GChief]

You mean it wasn't rammed down our throats on the backs of taxpayers by the global climate cultists? For shame.

*pausing for the obligatory "backwards thinking" eye roll from GChief... I kid I kid

As someone involved with power generation, and working all over the world, I just call it as ai see it. Just a POV/opinion formed from experience like anyone elses POV or opinions

I love hearing the alternative opinions, that's one of the reasons I am mostly in the off topic sub forums on sites I frequent.

 

[JMOR]

This country is pushing electric vehicles and clean energy while China And India are pumping more into the environment than ever before, and laughing at us for buying the cheap junk they make. What a fiasco

See, no worries where all the electricity we will need will come from, ....we sell our coal & natural gas to China & Russia and they sell us the electricity and keep all the 'nasty' pollution inside their borders. Understand The enviro-cultist sure do.

 

[Factotum]

', too many people are against fossil fuel burning". you watch too much of wrong channels

Maybe, maybe not. Why would there be this shift to get away from burning fossil fuels? Some conspiracy theory?

 

[will-max dairy]

In the utility 40 hp class selectrac started general market sales this year of a compact electric tractor.
They sold 75 units in first 6 months of production this year . A farmer on ewe tube demo one, he has loader and
takes two 900 -1000 lb hay bales every morning out to the cow pasture with this tractor. One bale per trip.
He says no worries about starting a combustion engine on cold morning ,no dead battery. no fuel gelling..no purchase diesel
fuel . Reliable work horse. Says the battery drops 1 % after morning chores finished .
Are these going to take over th3 40 horse utility tractor market. Did we see the start of the switch to the compact electric tractor in 2023 ?

Funny thing is,

The ad already did its job.

It showed that the tractor can move two round bales out to some cattle and leaves the discussion at that.

When, to me, as someone who feeds a similar amount of hay in a day, to a similar amount of cattle... does it make sense to do that, regardless of the tractor type??

Sometimes, corporations like to get people yelling "Tastes Great!".... "Less Filling!" at each other... while they sell us cheap, light beer.

To me, the solution is to try to obviate the need for the tractor or car as much as possible.

Then it really doesn't matter what kind it is...

 

[JMOR]

How did the gov't. make JD spend the money on that?

Probably the same way the $8 billion is getting to the new North Americn battery plant.....take it from working tax payers and give it to govt preferred companies/organizations.

 

[tractorford]

Funny thing is,

The ad already did its job.

It showed that the tractor can move two round bales out to some cattle and leaves the discussion at that.

When, to me, as someone who feeds a similar amount of hay in a day, to a similar amount of cattle... does it make sense to do that, regardless of the tractor type??

Sometimes, corporations like to get people yelling "Tastes Great!".... "Less Filling!" at each other... while they sell us cheap, light beer.

To me, the solution is to try to obviate the need for the tractor or car as much as possible.

Then it really doesn't matter what kind it is...

the equine is gonna make a comeback ---bio-mechnical electrical photonic-array equinotics-- they absorb nearby guilt and shame --the infinite energy source...

i wonder if they could get the inner propulsion systems to also produce 'by-products' of the energy-conversion process so theyd leave lil glazings of goo-poops like the old days as well --heh heh heh----- as the experimental tech platform wouldnt immediately be 100% efficient.... yea.... thatd would be something heheh

 

[will-max dairy]

the equine is gonna make a comeback ---bio-mechnical electrical photonic-array equinotics-- they absorb nearby guilt and shame --the infinite energy source...
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Well... where I do much of my work on the farm, they would at least need some different footwear...

 

[Fritz Maurer]

We must have a new moderator... many taboo statements have been uttered up to this point, and only a couple months ago a topic on square detachable chain got locked down because someone mentioned the word "price".

 

[will-max dairy]

Remember, one of the reasons cars replaced horses was because Henry offered the Model T cheaper than a good driving team of horsed! Price point runs a new market!

"Fordism" was a thing.

Henry Ford's philosophy of thrift and utility was, like you said, instrumental in actually making an economic case for the car, in lieu of the horse. He wanted people to be able to economically fix their cars. He wanted parts to be interchangeable for many, many years. He wanted the jobs of building cars to build communities and support families.

This is a very stark contrast, on many fronts, to how the EV is being introduced. (And, for that matter a very stark contrast to current ICE vehicles as well.)

 

[will-max dairy]

The process of moderating has become more moderate...

 

[scootergmc]

As someone involved with power generation, and working all over the world, I just call it as ai see it. Just a POV/opinion formed from experience like anyone elses POV or opinions

I love hearing the alternative opinions, that's one of the reasons I am mostly in the off topic sub forums on sites I frequent.

Come see us in the Oliver forum! We have nothing to offer on new technology! Ha.

 

[scootergmc]

How did the gov't. make JD spend the money on that?

Maybe it was all the global .gov regulations mandating emissions reductions pushing little guys out thereby creating markets for hypercost emissions compliant autonomous tractors only affordable to megabucks corporate ag companies?

 

[will-max dairy]

Probably the same way the $8 billion is getting to the new North Americn battery plant.....take it from working tax payers and give it to govt preferred companies/organizations.

Now, now... The whole area between Binghamton, Rome and Syracuse, NY is depending on gubm't funds to fund their research into various nebulous descriptions of battery storage systems...

I'm sure that these funds will be dispersed with egalitarianism, equity, equality and equine-amity (as in, a love of horse poo...) lol

Central NY has been looking at a chain of Fred and Ethel-esque get rich quick schemes to become "the next Silicon Valley"... since I was in high school...

 

[Dean]

How did the gov't. make JD spend the money on that?

What?