Good deal?

[Janicholson]

Believe what you want but just because Diesel Creek or some other You Tuber does something doesn't mean it is the right thing to do. And do you know for certain the glow plugs were actually working? From what I have seen it is not uncommon for the little details, that can be important, to be left out of You Tube videos.

I like Matt on Diesel Creek, but take 2 exceptions to his processes: he wears out starters with abandon, and he does so because he doesn't prime the fuel system. (some cranking is OK, but if there is better initial prep, they start.)
and the use of his Ether bunny. I want him to put the Autocar tractor back on the burner. Jim

 

[Jeremiah's Tractors]

I know Diesel Creek uses it a lot...

Why he uses it is because a lot of the engines he starts do not have glow plugs.

 

[Jeremiah's Tractors]

What did you do to stop the engine?

I turned off the fuel valve, (it took a bit to turn off, but it did in the end).

 

[showcrop]

Think about this: Starting fluid is highly flammable and will "explode" if the mist is ignited. What do you think will happen if that mist reaches a hot glow plug if the glow plug is in the intake manifold or a valve is still open? I saw parts of an air intake system blown more than 50 feet from an old Mack, with a Cummins. Turned out a new yard guy (trying to be helpful) walked up and gave it a good shot of starting fluid, without talking to the driver. The driver was properly using the glow plug and knew starting fluid was not to be used. Luckily no one was hurt but the truck was out of commission for a couple days while we fixed the intake system.

Aren't glow plugs electric with a wire that comes off easily? It has been a couple years since I did something with a glow plug but I could swear that was all it was.

 

[Jim.ME]

Aren't glow plugs electric with a wire that comes off easily? It has been a couple years since I did something with a glow plug but I could swear that was all it was.

Yes as you know, they are electric and of course they could be unhooked (and a thermostart could be as well), how easily depends on the arrangement. I never said they couldn't be. It is possible Diesel Creek or some other You Tube guru unhooked them before using starting fluid, but if they didn't make that completely clear and tell how they did that, it could lead to serious injury, not to mention damage. The little details, that can be important being left out on You Tube, as I mentioned.

 

[Caryc]

I turned off the fuel valve, (it took a bit to turn off, but it did in the end).

You could also cut off the air supply. We had a big Grey Marine diesel run away in a mike 8 landing craft once. In that small engine room, it was pretty scary but one old guy took a fire extinguisher and fired it into the air intake and that stopped it. On a big diesel like that, sometimes when they run away so bad like that, they will run on their own crank case oil blowing past the pistons so cutting off the fuel will not stop them.

 

[showcrop]

You could also cut off the air supply. We had a big Grey Marine diesel run away in a mike 8 landing craft once. In that small engine room, it was pretty scary but one old guy took a fire extinguisher and fired it into the air intake and that stopped it. On a big diesel like that, sometimes when they run away so bad like that, they will run on their own crank case oil blowing past the pistons so cutting off the fuel will not stop them.

Especially the two stroke Detroits. Sometimes a heavy coat or pair of overalls will work.

 

[Jeremiah's Tractors]

You could also cut off the air supply. We had a big Grey Marine diesel run away in a mike 8 landing craft once. In that small engine room, it was pretty scary but one old guy took a fire extinguisher and fired it into the air intake and that stopped it. On a big diesel like that, sometimes when they run away so bad like that, they will run on their own crank case oil blowing past the pistons so cutting off the fuel will not stop them.

Wow! Scary.

 

[Jeremiah's Tractors]

Especially the two stroke Detroits. Sometimes a heavy coat or pair of overalls will work.

Don't detroit's have an emergency shut off flapper?

 

[G1000VISTA]

Don't detroit's have an emergency shut off flapper?

Correct. Lots of times their frozen fast with rust. That's why when you are getting an engine running that's been setting for years, you should make sure the flap works.

 

[showcrop]

Correct. Lots of times their frozen fast with rust. That's why when you are getting an engine running that's been setting for years, you should make sure the flap works.

Along with being stuck with rust, sometimes the cable, when pulled during the stress of high volume high RPMs, rather than pulling the flapper will pull out of its housing.

 

[tractorford]

its not like a ford 850 thats been crekin- around from heck and back-

--that kubota is a lovely deal.

 

[Jeremiah's Tractors]

So a few days ago I started to work on it and this is what I found! It was jammed between the governor arm and the block.

 

[Jeremiah's Tractors]

It came from the front fuel camshaft bearing. I checked the rear bearing and there wasn't any balls in it! when I took off the gear housing that connects the hydraulic pump to the injection pump, I noticed that there was a hole in it (as a result of the gear banging around, because the bearing was bad).

 

[Mcrafty1]

I'm going to follow this one...it should be an interesting saga.

 

[Jeremiah's Tractors]

More pics

 

[Jeremiah's Tractors]

One thing I don't like about working on newer tractors like this, is that there is a lot of paint flakes all over (because its never been worked on). Definitely needs some new bearings.

 

[Jeremiah's Tractors]

 

[Texgasser1]

Darn good deal even if you have to drop a new motor in it.

 

[Jeremiah's Tractors]

Darn good deal even if you have to drop a new motor in it.

Yeah, for sure. I just hope that none of that bearing marital was able to get in to the engine bearings.