Bob (Aust)
Well-known Member
Jeff.
I lived in Papua New Guinea for over twenty years, the last thirteen years in a small highlands town called Goroka. It was 6° South of the Equator, 5,100 feet above sea level, surrounded by hills up to 15,000 feet and crystal clear air.
There was no Summer or Winter, just a constant 16° C (60° F) at night, 28° C (82° F) during the day.
That place had the perfect climate!
Out here in Roma, 300 miles inland from Brisbane, Australia, the climate is near perfect except for a week or so in January when the day time temps are usually around 40° C (104° F), and June/July when overnight minimums can get down to around 1° or 2° C (33° F to 35° F). The high temps are quite bearable as the humidity is always very low. The down side of the low humidity is the static electricity from any metal objects, particularly cars.
Our economy here is based on grain and beef cattle production and natural gas. Unemployment is around 2.4%, the economy has been booming for years and I have to ask, "What economic recession"?
I really feel sorry for you guys with your snow and sub zero temps. I guess normal life activities almost shut down during mid winter? All these things like engine block heaters, tyre chains etc are virtually unknown here.
I know it is probably forum drift, but I am always very interested in what all you guys do and what family life is really like where you live. I am probably fortunate in having visited around 40 countries World wide (during my prior airline career), so find it easy to imagine especially when photos are posted.
:lol:
Bob in Sunny Oz
'53 TEA20
I lived in Papua New Guinea for over twenty years, the last thirteen years in a small highlands town called Goroka. It was 6° South of the Equator, 5,100 feet above sea level, surrounded by hills up to 15,000 feet and crystal clear air.
There was no Summer or Winter, just a constant 16° C (60° F) at night, 28° C (82° F) during the day.
That place had the perfect climate!
Out here in Roma, 300 miles inland from Brisbane, Australia, the climate is near perfect except for a week or so in January when the day time temps are usually around 40° C (104° F), and June/July when overnight minimums can get down to around 1° or 2° C (33° F to 35° F). The high temps are quite bearable as the humidity is always very low. The down side of the low humidity is the static electricity from any metal objects, particularly cars.
Our economy here is based on grain and beef cattle production and natural gas. Unemployment is around 2.4%, the economy has been booming for years and I have to ask, "What economic recession"?
I really feel sorry for you guys with your snow and sub zero temps. I guess normal life activities almost shut down during mid winter? All these things like engine block heaters, tyre chains etc are virtually unknown here.
I know it is probably forum drift, but I am always very interested in what all you guys do and what family life is really like where you live. I am probably fortunate in having visited around 40 countries World wide (during my prior airline career), so find it easy to imagine especially when photos are posted.
:lol:
Bob in Sunny Oz
'53 TEA20
Barry Reid
New User
Hi Jeff and Bob
Sounds like I could get use to that kind of climate Bob. Here in Stirling, Ontario Canada
(2 hours east of Toronto) We got dumped on last night almost 8 inches here. I got home from work today and jumped on Fergy and plowed snow for an hour or so. I have been by myself for the last 2 weeks. My wife and 24 of her close freinds went to the Dominican Republic for a holiday. They all turn 50 this year and wanted to celebrate together. They are due home sometime tonight. There goes MY holiday ( ha ha ) Stay well everyone
Sounds like I could get use to that kind of climate Bob. Here in Stirling, Ontario Canada
(2 hours east of Toronto) We got dumped on last night almost 8 inches here. I got home from work today and jumped on Fergy and plowed snow for an hour or so. I have been by myself for the last 2 weeks. My wife and 24 of her close freinds went to the Dominican Republic for a holiday. They all turn 50 this year and wanted to celebrate together. They are due home sometime tonight. There goes MY holiday ( ha ha ) Stay well everyone
Hi Bob , thanks for the information in your part of the world. I am in Nova Scotia, Canada, where in most weeks we get a variety of strong winds, cold air, snow and freezing rain, which this week all came in the past 48 hours, February can quite often be the same type of weather. This is not fun weather to be working on old tractors, the project that I am now working on is a /52 Ferguson, Standard engine. (Question is this the one they call 2085 ??). It is now 21:45 hours Thursday, Jan 29/09 Cheers, Murray
Elroy Noreen
New User
I live in Minnesota (central part) where we have had anywhere from-35 to 42 below weather this winter then you add the wind chill and you can be glad that you are retired and not have be outside unless you have to. I would like to spend 2weeks in your part of the world to thaw out!!!!!!!!!
Bob from Australia
Member
I am another Bob. Mainly live in Sydney or on my farm at Moree (not far south of Roma)
I studied at University of Illinois about 40 years ago for three years, then worked near Toronto in Canada for another couple of years.
In spite of all my forebears have come from the cold UK, I just could not tolerate the North American winters so returned to Australia.
Yes I do have a couple of Fergies. A great FE35 with Perkins and a not running TEA20 (next project)
I studied at University of Illinois about 40 years ago for three years, then worked near Toronto in Canada for another couple of years.
In spite of all my forebears have come from the cold UK, I just could not tolerate the North American winters so returned to Australia.
Yes I do have a couple of Fergies. A great FE35 with Perkins and a not running TEA20 (next project)
Bob (Aust)
Well-known Member
G'Day Mate!! And welcome to a great forum!!
Yup, Moree isn't far and we're almost neighbours - only 383 kilometers Moree to Roma.
I've got a wealth of information on the TEA20 - email me if you need anything.
Bob in XXXXland
'53 TEA20
Yup, Moree isn't far and we're almost neighbours - only 383 kilometers Moree to Roma.
I've got a wealth of information on the TEA20 - email me if you need anything.
Bob in XXXXland
'53 TEA20
Murray, I am not Bob, however if your serial number is 172501 or higher yes it is a TEA 20-85, if your serial number is lower then it is a TEA 20-80. As long as you KNOW this is a 52 yes it is a 20-85 as they quit using the 20-80 during the 1951 production year. I understand from Bob he really thinks he has the cream of the crop with a TEA 20-85. Who am I to argue with him? Cheers Richard
dan from brighton
Member
just got off my fergie plowing 10 inches of snow
almost nowhere to put anymore snow, gone to cuba next week for some heat
almost nowhere to put anymore snow, gone to cuba next week for some heat
Bob (Aust)
Well-known Member
Hi Richard. I've never touched/seen/driven a TO20/30 but from posts in this forum, the Standard Motor Company engine seems far more robust than the Continental.
Unless really abused, I've never heard of a Standard engine suffering from block or head cracking. It is almost impossible to kill them! 28 horse power, a nice very useful tractor even in this day and age.
Drove past a very large cotton farm the other day and glanced into their tractor shed - a big green and yellow Header (harvester); massive green and yellow tractor, air con cabin and dual wheels all around - and a little gray Fergy!!
Few people realise how versatile the Standard engine was. Look at these photos:
Vanguard car
Triumph TR3A sports car
Morgan Plus 4 sports car
Their relevance to the TEA20 Ferguson tractor?? [b:79777233be]They all use virtually the same Standard Motor Company engine as the TEA series Fergy!!![/b:79777233be]
Now, I wonder how my TEA20 would perform with the TR3A's twin SU jugs and a set of extractors??? :lol:
Way back in the 1960's when I spent half my wages on parties, cars, girls and flying - the rest I spent foolishly - I owned a Triumph TR3A sports car. Rebuilt and "tuned" the engine and fitted Ferguson tractor cylinder sleeves to increase capacity to something over 2.2 liters (135 cubic inch). The TR3A and TR4 engine could be tuned to over 150 BHP!!
It is probably fair to say I have a 25 year love affair with my TEA20, even if it now shares my affections with the red Jaguar XKE/E Type!! :lol:
Incidentally, the "TEA 20-85" title seems to be a Canadian thing. In Australia and the UK they are all simply TEA20's, regardless of whether they have the 80 or 85 mm bore engine.
Bob in Oz
'53 TEA20
'66 Jaguar E Type
Unless really abused, I've never heard of a Standard engine suffering from block or head cracking. It is almost impossible to kill them! 28 horse power, a nice very useful tractor even in this day and age.
Drove past a very large cotton farm the other day and glanced into their tractor shed - a big green and yellow Header (harvester); massive green and yellow tractor, air con cabin and dual wheels all around - and a little gray Fergy!!
Few people realise how versatile the Standard engine was. Look at these photos:
Vanguard car
Triumph TR3A sports car
Morgan Plus 4 sports car
Their relevance to the TEA20 Ferguson tractor?? [b:79777233be]They all use virtually the same Standard Motor Company engine as the TEA series Fergy!!![/b:79777233be]
Now, I wonder how my TEA20 would perform with the TR3A's twin SU jugs and a set of extractors??? :lol:
Way back in the 1960's when I spent half my wages on parties, cars, girls and flying - the rest I spent foolishly - I owned a Triumph TR3A sports car. Rebuilt and "tuned" the engine and fitted Ferguson tractor cylinder sleeves to increase capacity to something over 2.2 liters (135 cubic inch). The TR3A and TR4 engine could be tuned to over 150 BHP!!
It is probably fair to say I have a 25 year love affair with my TEA20, even if it now shares my affections with the red Jaguar XKE/E Type!! :lol:
Incidentally, the "TEA 20-85" title seems to be a Canadian thing. In Australia and the UK they are all simply TEA20's, regardless of whether they have the 80 or 85 mm bore engine.
Bob in Oz
'53 TEA20
'66 Jaguar E Type
Bob, thanks for straightening me out on the 20-80 & 20-85. I thought that was the normal thing even here in the states. I must be missing something as years ago we called them TR3's and XKE's now I feel you are calling them what they really should have been called all this time TR3A and XKE/E I will continue to believe this is the best Ferguson Forum anywhere as I am always learning something new even if it is only indirectly related to the Ferguson. LOL Richard
Barry from Stirling
Member
You lucky #@#%$#%^&%. Have fun
Barry from Stirling, Just up the road
Barry from Stirling, Just up the road
Bob (Aust)
Well-known Member
[b:fdce7e9bd3]Richard[/b:fdce7e9bd3]. Don't take my word for it - you know us Aussies don't understand or speak real English!!! :lol:
Our national language in Australia is [b:fdce7e9bd3]STRINE[/b:fdce7e9bd3], which bears little resemblance to the English mother tongue!
In the UK and Australia my Jag is known as an E Type (following on from the rare and exorbitantly expensive racing C Type and D Type), whereas it appears to be known as the XKE in the US. It may come from the fact the late 1940s to mid 1980s six cylinder, twin overhead cam Jag engine was called the "XK engine." But what do you call the V12 Jag in the US?
Triumph built a range of sports cars from the TR2 to the TR7 (I think - or was there a TR8 with the Leyland/Rover V8?), however I think only the TR2, TR3, TR3A and TR4 had the Fergy style Standard engine. I think the TR5 to TR7 had a six cylinder engine? The TR3A was similar to the TR3, except it had a "recessed" front grill. They were really wonderful "old school" British sports cars, built at a time British engineering ruled the world!
Considering the Standard Fergy style engine could easily be pushed to 150 HP in the Triumph and Morgan sports cars, I think the secret to it's success in the Fergy is that it is grossly understressed, being limited to only 28 HP at 2,600 (?) RPM maximum.
At one stage many, many years ago I owned a 1938 Morgan +4 sports car with Coventry Climax engine. It was the most uncomfortable car I've ever ridden in, rock hard suspension, maintenance nightmare - but one drive and they become a love affair, that little car cornered like a train on tracks. Wish I'd never sold it!
Another interesting and unusual fact about British car manufacturers - the Aston Martin sports car favored by James Bond (Sean Connery) was built by David Brown Ltd - also well known for building David Brown tractors - which I think may now be Case tractors? Indeed, my Jaguar E Type was sold to compete with the Aston Martin DB5. At 150 MPH, the Jag was at least 5 MPH faster in top speed and one third the price of the Aston Martin.
It was cool enough this morning (36° C - 96° F) to mow my lawns. My other "tractor" - my John Deere L110 with the wonderful Kohler engine. My "[i:fdce7e9bd3]Mean Green Mowing Machine[/i:fdce7e9bd3]"! :lol:
What a great forum this is, that friends around the world, who have probably never met, can chat like this!!!
You all have a great weekend!
Bob in Sunny Oz
Addicted to British Engineering, Aussie Beer - and Life!! :lol:
Our national language in Australia is [b:fdce7e9bd3]STRINE[/b:fdce7e9bd3], which bears little resemblance to the English mother tongue!
In the UK and Australia my Jag is known as an E Type (following on from the rare and exorbitantly expensive racing C Type and D Type), whereas it appears to be known as the XKE in the US. It may come from the fact the late 1940s to mid 1980s six cylinder, twin overhead cam Jag engine was called the "XK engine." But what do you call the V12 Jag in the US?
Triumph built a range of sports cars from the TR2 to the TR7 (I think - or was there a TR8 with the Leyland/Rover V8?), however I think only the TR2, TR3, TR3A and TR4 had the Fergy style Standard engine. I think the TR5 to TR7 had a six cylinder engine? The TR3A was similar to the TR3, except it had a "recessed" front grill. They were really wonderful "old school" British sports cars, built at a time British engineering ruled the world!
Considering the Standard Fergy style engine could easily be pushed to 150 HP in the Triumph and Morgan sports cars, I think the secret to it's success in the Fergy is that it is grossly understressed, being limited to only 28 HP at 2,600 (?) RPM maximum.
At one stage many, many years ago I owned a 1938 Morgan +4 sports car with Coventry Climax engine. It was the most uncomfortable car I've ever ridden in, rock hard suspension, maintenance nightmare - but one drive and they become a love affair, that little car cornered like a train on tracks. Wish I'd never sold it!
Another interesting and unusual fact about British car manufacturers - the Aston Martin sports car favored by James Bond (Sean Connery) was built by David Brown Ltd - also well known for building David Brown tractors - which I think may now be Case tractors? Indeed, my Jaguar E Type was sold to compete with the Aston Martin DB5. At 150 MPH, the Jag was at least 5 MPH faster in top speed and one third the price of the Aston Martin.
It was cool enough this morning (36° C - 96° F) to mow my lawns. My other "tractor" - my John Deere L110 with the wonderful Kohler engine. My "[i:fdce7e9bd3]Mean Green Mowing Machine[/i:fdce7e9bd3]"! :lol:
What a great forum this is, that friends around the world, who have probably never met, can chat like this!!!
You all have a great weekend!
Bob in Sunny Oz
Addicted to British Engineering, Aussie Beer - and Life!! :lol:
Bob (Aust)
Well-known Member
Murray.
Serial number 2488512? (seven digits?). :?
Only 517,000 TE Fergys were built! My guess that should be 248512 (six digits) - in which case it is a 1952 TEA20 with 85 mm engine.
:lol:
Serial number 2488512? (seven digits?). :?
Only 517,000 TE Fergys were built! My guess that should be 248512 (six digits) - in which case it is a 1952 TEA20 with 85 mm engine.
:lol:
Bob, in answer to your question of what I call the V12 Jag in the U.S. "expensive". Now to be honest I did not know anything about a V12. In my part of Michigan I only see those expensive cars if they happen to come off the Interstate to get something to eat or get gas. Where I am from we don't have hardly any real expensive vehicles that I can remember. I must say that is a very nice looking yard you have there and I showed your rose bushes to my wife and she said it must be nice to have been born where it is such nice weather all (most) of the time. I believe it would be hard for me to move away as I have to many memories of the changing seasons, which I really enjoy. I must say that last line of your post there is nothing wrong with it. Richard
Bob (Aust)
Well-known Member
Actually, if you are talking about the flowering bushes inside my front fence (with my Toyota in the background), they are [b:a45a2a20d2]Oleander[/b:a45a2a20d2] in different colors. Can't get much to grow in that garden, which is very annoying. I have roses at the back of the house in better soil.
Normally I don't like Oleander, poison to animals, but they seem to thrive in that garden whilst everything else seems to die.
The tree behind me to the right of the photo is a [b:a45a2a20d2]Drunken Parrot Tree[/b:a45a2a20d2] (Schotia brachypetala).
It flowers in summer, the nectar ferments, the native parrots flock in to get the nectar, get totally drunk and fall out of the tree. Keeps me in fits of laughter for hours! :lol:
Bob
Normally I don't like Oleander, poison to animals, but they seem to thrive in that garden whilst everything else seems to die.
The tree behind me to the right of the photo is a [b:a45a2a20d2]Drunken Parrot Tree[/b:a45a2a20d2] (Schotia brachypetala).
It flowers in summer, the nectar ferments, the native parrots flock in to get the nectar, get totally drunk and fall out of the tree. Keeps me in fits of laughter for hours! :lol:
Bob
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