HP requirements

[FordTractorMan]

My brother in law just made me an incredible deal on his brand new Kinze 3500 planter and Landoll 2630 Field Cultivator. The planter has never been to the field. It"s an 8 row 30 w/7 pushers, monitor, finger pickup, & fancy bean meters. It"s not a vacuum planter. My main question is how much horsepower I"ll need to pull it. My farms are rolling clay/loam hills. I do some no-till. I"m not looking to set any speed records, so I"m hoping to put the duals on the 8700 and plant with it. Thoughts? I"m not even sure if I"ll need a 3rd set of remotes - pretty early into the deal. Also, the Landoll is a 20", but it"s heavy built. Thinking it may work my TW35 if I run very deep. Anyone have any thoughts? Why"s he selling? My father-in-law died last Jan and mother-in-law sold out in March. Feel bad for bro-in-law - he was doing all the farming. He and his dad bought these 2 items just before his dad died. They hadn"t even been delivered yet. Randy ran the field cultivator over about 300 acres & that"s it. Called me Friday and made me a deal I couldn"t refuse.

 

[IaGary]

That planter will tug 140 HP pretty hard. I had one I pulled with a 1086IH. I knew it was back there.

I pulled a 22 foot field cultivator with the same HP at 6 inches deep and 6 MPH.

I don"t know the HP on those Fords.

Gary

 

[caterpillar guy]

I did a search for the field cultivator and according to Landolls site that is a disc. If it is not then I would expect to pull it with a TW35 well.
We pull a 24' Vibra shank with either an 806,856,or 1466 just depends on the depth. For deeper spring work the 1466 if it is just a finish pass the 806or856 will work. I pull it at about 5" in 4th low then jump up to 1st high for the finish pass to smooth it out better on the second time.
I think your 8700 should pull the planter fine.

 

[FordTractorMan]

Caterpillar guy - check out this link. Not sure I understand the Landoll numbering system, but here's a link to what I'm getting. 20' width. Bro-in-law said he pulled it w/a 2590 Case and it was a load. Thanks for the response.

 

[FordTractorMan]

Gary - 8700 is only 110 hp. Mine may put out a little more since it's had a pump rebuild, not sure. Anyway, sounds like I'd be loaded heavy w/that planter.

This field cultivator is way bigger - frame size, length, & weight - than my 18' vibrashank. Thinking the TW will handle it though. 170 hp w/fwa. Hoping so anyway. Thanks.

 

[sideconsole4020guy]

I have a friend that pulls a 12/23 kinze pivot planter with a 5088 IH 2wd on some hilly and terraced ground I think the 8700 will pull a 8/15 just fine.
I should also add that my friends 12/23 is set up for no till as well but they do tillage again. It made the 5088 work but its only a 140 HP tractor and the planter is heavier than the one you are getting.

 

[ss55]

Maybe call the implement dealer on Monday. They should be able to tell you what works well for their other customers use with the same equipment. Sometimes the manufacturer's suggestions are optimistic.

Worst case if you find you are short on traction or power, could you temporarilly remove some shanks and disks from the ends of the field cultivator to get the width you can pull well?

 

[Nick m]

I worked for a guy that had the same planter set up. Older but 8+7. We pulled it with a jd 4640 with duals most of the time and it didn't know it was back there. It was on his jd 7610 with fwa and no duals one spring. It worked okay but needed the fwa and it knew it was there. We went 5mph with the 4640, but the 7610 would only do about 4.5 if I remember right.

 

[big jt]

I pull a 3650 12/23 with a 2294 (rated 129) Case. I get along ok but it is pretty much all I want with that tractor.

Pulling it in the field under good conditions isn't a problem at all. Going down the road is more of a issue. If things get muddy that is a whole different issue. Neighbor has the same planter and used to pull it with a 3594 Case (180 hp and FWA) Wet conditions give him the same problem.

I needed to add a third remote to run the seed box. Main functions folding and raise lower are run on two outlets with a brain box. If you have central fill you will need a third set of outlets.

 

[big orange]

Friends have either a 3600 or 3650 8/15 that they pull with a 100 hp Agco-Allis( 8775) rolling ground, not steep, in no-till or chiseled ground, they say it handles it fine. I think you only need 2 remotes.

 

[paul]

Any fertilizer on the planter, that can make them a little heavy to handle if they have a lot of openers and tanks and stuff. But I would think 100 hp should make it plant whenever the ground is actually fit to plant....

I pull a 22 foot field cultivator with my 2wd TW20, so you should be fine with the TW30 on a 20 foot.

I have so e good hills and tough clay soils.

Paul

 

[paul]

Did you forget the link?

 

[johnwayne360]

I think you will be marginal with the tw. Planters normally take 6-8 hp per row. Disks and field finishers normally take 10 hp per foot. 170 hp and 20 ft will be stretching it a bit..but depending on the acres you do..you could be able to get it done.

 

[paul]

On their site:

http://www.landoll.com/ag/9800/?style=small

They have very different numbers than you listed for new machines. Are you sure on your model number? Field cultivators are different entirely, while the disk would at least have the numbers you listed, just in a different order....

Paul
Landoll

 

[Anonymous-0]

Not a problem with either implement unless you want to set speed records. I pull a dry fertilizer 12 row on rolling ground with slightly over 100 hp, but only at 4 mph. I assume the Landoll is a field cultivator rather than a soil finisher which pull harder. A 20 ft soil finisher would be a load for TW35.

 

[FordTractorMan]

Duh, sure did! Thanks Paul. Here it is: http://www.landoll.com/ag/9800/pdf/Landoll-AG-9600-FieldCultivator-0213.pdf

 

[FordTractorMan]

Think I put 9630. Scroll down and there's a pic of a 9630-34'. Mine's just a 20'. I'll check again.