new owner of a 620, will try to update this as we go.

Hey all. new to the forum. Bought a jd620 a while back.

The gas tank had some black stuff and a few tiny pebbles in it that kept getting into the sediment bowl assembly, so we kept having to unscrew it and clean it out. The stuff wasn't just getting into the bowl but getting hung up on the inlet. Well one of the times we had it off, with my brother trying to clear the crud out while I was using a finger to keep as much gas in the tank as I could, when we put it back together we appear to have gotten the carburetor this time. It only fires on both randomly. The one cylinder runs reliably but the other one is coasting usually. If I hit the throttle the one runs all by itself until the rpm is at max and then maybe the bad one will help.

If I turn the power screw all the way out I have a little bit more throttle response but it's still lousy, about 10 or 12 pops to go from idle to full speed. It was 4 or 5 before. I tried to adjust the idle screws, but if I'm running just on the right cylinder it runs ok, and I set the sweet spot while it was at around 300 rpm, but it won't start on the left plug only. I set it to where I thought it was helping the right one the most just with both plug wires on, but meh. Already put the electronic ignition on because we were having issues with the points system anyway and I want to farm with this some so I'm looking for all the power and fuel efficiency I could get.


So guessing the carburetor got plugged. Will be taking it off at some point soon. It ran super nicely before that when ever the sedimant bowl assembly wasn't plugged off. We had the hood off and the gas tank out and got it mostly clean. It still has black marks in it but we can't get them off. Tried putting brake cleaner on a rag on the end of a stick, the rag turns black but it doesn't change anything in the tank. It's back together but it'll have to come off again eventually because we forgot to run the wire for the fuel sending unit, which we did verify to be working. Our best guess is the black stuff in the tank is the gasket from the sending unit. I bought a replacement for that, it was just a powder when we took the unit off the tank, pretty bazaar.

Exhaust manifold had a pretty bad crack in it and the gaskets were blown out on both sides, so I managed to find a new one at tractorpartsasap.com for $150. Intake was good, so I didn't want the close to $300 kit that had all of it. But I did buy a new heat exchanger, and it's leaking a tiny bit of air around it at max rpm, you can feel it puffing air on your hand if you hold it above the exchanger. Is this normal, and can water get in there and possibly break this one too? The way I have that exchanger now, the word "hot" shows on the left side, does that mean it's for hot weather or for keeping the engine hot? I'd probably just set it for the warm weather, which ever that is, and leave it. We're in West Virginia. We do have cold enough winters, but it seems like it's not going to be very cold blooded at all.

Had to buy a new valve cover gasket. When the engine shuts off it's making a strange gurgling noise that seems to be coming from near the front, any idea what this might be, maybe the power steering or the water pump? I can't hear it myself but I recorded it with my phone and a friend noticed it.

Transmission does have the whine, but I found another thread on here that sort of reassured me to a point. The whine is there for all gears, but my concern is about a clicking that happens in second gear and fourth gear, with fourth being the worst by a fair bit.

Clutch is super grabby, there's absolutely no chance to gradually engage it. Tried adjusting it but that just caused a continual grinding sound until I loosened it up again. I am thinking it needs new hardware but that's on the back burner until we get the engine popping consistently again.

It has new oil in the engine, first reduction gear and transmission and the PTO thing, can't remember what they call that, Power Troll? We flushed the transmission with diesel. That quietened the whine but not the clicking.

It seemed to be running really nicely, we pulled a load of firewood with it up hill in third gear and it was popping super loud and sounded pretty impressive. Hopefully the carburetor cleaning will get us back to that point. Also hopefully it doesn't become a carburetor repair.

The wet lines have a pretty bad leak on the end, so we've just been leaving the pump turned off until we address that.

Question, the center//top link for the 3 point hitch, is there a way I can do that without paying $250 for a new one? It didn't come with one. Can I just buy the end that goes on the tractor and screw that into a normal top link from tsc or something like that? Don't need the knuckle thing on the other end that you can slide down over a ball, a normal one would be fine.

What about the sway blocks for the lift arms? It doesn't have those either, and some of the implements will need that. The disk mower might actually be ok because it has chains that you attach to something in the center where the drawbar is. This doesn't actually have anything we can find to fasten them to, but maybe we can work that out. The blocks are about $60 a piece, and it's not so obvious from the pictures how they mount.

One of the wheels is rusted pretty badly just on the outer rim part, Its not a power adjust rim. No idea what that's going to cost because I haven't figured out what the proper replacement is.

We have a small farm with some cows and we grow and feed round bales. We use slightly more modern tractors normally, but I wanted to be able to play with a 2 cyl and actually still be able to use it. My Farmall M is just not practical and I'm probably going to sell it. It doesn't have the 3 point conversion, and it's a narrow front end. In Wv, that's concerning to us since we do have a lot of hills.
 
Have fun with it! That gurgling noise upon shut down is normal....my 630 does that as well. Most any top link would work for the 3 pt, just check clearances by hand first. Sway blocks can be found used but can be pricey. You will need a double bevel rim for the rear....38 inch by 13 or 14 inches.

Ben
 
Welcome to this forum
Concerning grabby clutch I'll advise to remove clutch pully which requires a drive disk to be pulled off splined end of crankshaft. Then put grease on toggles & dogs plus packing bearing located in pully housing with grease
 
Hey all. new to the forum. Bought a jd620 a while back.

The gas tank had some black stuff and a few tiny pebbles in it that kept getting into the sediment bowl assembly, so we kept having to unscrew it and clean it out. The stuff wasn't just getting into the bowl but getting hung up on the inlet. Well one of the times we had it off, with my brother trying to clear the crud out while I was using a finger to keep as much gas in the tank as I could, when we put it back together we appear to have gotten the carburetor this time. It only fires on both randomly. The one cylinder runs reliably but the other one is coasting usually. If I hit the throttle the one runs all by itself until the rpm is at max and then maybe the bad one will help.

If I turn the power screw all the way out I have a little bit more throttle response but it's still lousy, about 10 or 12 pops to go from idle to full speed. It was 4 or 5 before. I tried to adjust the idle screws, but if I'm running just on the right cylinder it runs ok, and I set the sweet spot while it was at around 300 rpm, but it won't start on the left plug only. I set it to where I thought it was helping the right one the most just with both plug wires on, but meh. Already put the electronic ignition on because we were having issues with the points system anyway and I want to farm with this some so I'm looking for all the power and fuel efficiency I could get.


So guessing the carburetor got plugged. Will be taking it off at some point soon. It ran super nicely before that when ever the sedimant bowl assembly wasn't plugged off. We had the hood off and the gas tank out and got it mostly clean. It still has black marks in it but we can't get them off. Tried putting brake cleaner on a rag on the end of a stick, the rag turns black but it doesn't change anything in the tank. It's back together but it'll have to come off again eventually because we forgot to run the wire for the fuel sending unit, which we did verify to be working. Our best guess is the black stuff in the tank is the gasket from the sending unit. I bought a replacement for that, it was just a powder when we took the unit off the tank, pretty bazaar.

Exhaust manifold had a pretty bad crack in it and the gaskets were blown out on both sides, so I managed to find a new one at tractorpartsasap.com for $150. Intake was good, so I didn't want the close to $300 kit that had all of it. But I did buy a new heat exchanger, and it's leaking a tiny bit of air around it at max rpm, you can feel it puffing air on your hand if you hold it above the exchanger. Is this normal, and can water get in there and possibly break this one too? The way I have that exchanger now, the word "hot" shows on the left side, does that mean it's for hot weather or for keeping the engine hot? I'd probably just set it for the warm weather, which ever that is, and leave it. We're in West Virginia. We do have cold enough winters, but it seems like it's not going to be very cold blooded at all.

Had to buy a new valve cover gasket. When the engine shuts off it's making a strange gurgling noise that seems to be coming from near the front, any idea what this might be, maybe the power steering or the water pump? I can't hear it myself but I recorded it with my phone and a friend noticed it.

Transmission does have the whine, but I found another thread on here that sort of reassured me to a point. The whine is there for all gears, but my concern is about a clicking that happens in second gear and fourth gear, with fourth being the worst by a fair bit.

Clutch is super grabby, there's absolutely no chance to gradually engage it. Tried adjusting it but that just caused a continual grinding sound until I loosened it up again. I am thinking it needs new hardware but that's on the back burner until we get the engine popping consistently again.

It has new oil in the engine, first reduction gear and transmission and the PTO thing, can't remember what they call that, Power Troll? We flushed the transmission with diesel. That quietened the whine but not the clicking.

It seemed to be running really nicely, we pulled a load of firewood with it up hill in third gear and it was popping super loud and sounded pretty impressive. Hopefully the carburetor cleaning will get us back to that point. Also hopefully it doesn't become a carburetor repair.

The wet lines have a pretty bad leak on the end, so we've just been leaving the pump turned off until we address that.

Question, the center//top link for the 3 point hitch, is there a way I can do that without paying $250 for a new one? It didn't come with one. Can I just buy the end that goes on the tractor and screw that into a normal top link from tsc or something like that? Don't need the knuckle thing on the other end that you can slide down over a ball, a normal one would be fine.

What about the sway blocks for the lift arms? It doesn't have those either, and some of the implements will need that. The disk mower might actually be ok because it has chains that you attach to something in the center where the drawbar is. This doesn't actually have anything we can find to fasten them to, but maybe we can work that out. The blocks are about $60 a piece, and it's not so obvious from the pictures how they mount.

One of the wheels is rusted pretty badly just on the outer rim part, Its not a power adjust rim. No idea what that's going to cost because I haven't figured out what the proper replacement is.

We have a small farm with some cows and we grow and feed round bales. We use slightly more modern tractors normally, but I wanted to be able to play with a 2 cyl and actually still be able to use it. My Farmall M is just not practical and I'm probably going to sell it. It doesn't have the 3 point conversion, and it's a narrow front end. In Wv, that's concerning to us since we do have a lot of hills.
Sway blocks are very simple and easy to make. I made a pair for my 630 several decades ago. Used scrap material on hand. I use the common farm store top links. The "gurgle" is normal when you shut down a 2 cylinder Deere. Have you tried switching your spark plugs from side to side? Sometimes the problem follows the spark plug. You have a lot of issues going on. I would focus on one at a time, pecking away as the list got smaller. Welcome to the forum. I think you'll enjoy your 620, and you'll know a lot about it when you get it going.
 
Hey all. new to the forum. Bought a jd620 a while back.

The gas tank had some black stuff and a few tiny pebbles in it that kept getting into the sediment bowl assembly, so we kept having to unscrew it and clean it out. The stuff wasn't just getting into the bowl but getting hung up on the inlet. Well one of the times we had it off, with my brother trying to clear the crud out while I was using a finger to keep as much gas in the tank as I could, when we put it back together we appear to have gotten the carburetor this time. It only fires on both randomly. The one cylinder runs reliably but the other one is coasting usually. If I hit the throttle the one runs all by itself until the rpm is at max and then maybe the bad one will help.

If I turn the power screw all the way out I have a little bit more throttle response but it's still lousy, about 10 or 12 pops to go from idle to full speed. It was 4 or 5 before. I tried to adjust the idle screws, but if I'm running just on the right cylinder it runs ok, and I set the sweet spot while it was at around 300 rpm, but it won't start on the left plug only. I set it to where I thought it was helping the right one the most just with both plug wires on, but meh. Already put the electronic ignition on because we were having issues with the points system anyway and I want to farm with this some so I'm looking for all the power and fuel efficiency I could get.


So guessing the carburetor got plugged. Will be taking it off at some point soon. It ran super nicely before that when ever the sedimant bowl assembly wasn't plugged off. We had the hood off and the gas tank out and got it mostly clean. It still has black marks in it but we can't get them off. Tried putting brake cleaner on a rag on the end of a stick, the rag turns black but it doesn't change anything in the tank. It's back together but it'll have to come off again eventually because we forgot to run the wire for the fuel sending unit, which we did verify to be working. Our best guess is the black stuff in the tank is the gasket from the sending unit. I bought a replacement for that, it was just a powder when we took the unit off the tank, pretty bazaar.

Exhaust manifold had a pretty bad crack in it and the gaskets were blown out on both sides, so I managed to find a new one at tractorpartsasap.com for $150. Intake was good, so I didn't want the close to $300 kit that had all of it. But I did buy a new heat exchanger, and it's leaking a tiny bit of air around it at max rpm, you can feel it puffing air on your hand if you hold it above the exchanger. Is this normal, and can water get in there and possibly break this one too? The way I have that exchanger now, the word "hot" shows on the left side, does that mean it's for hot weather or for keeping the engine hot? I'd probably just set it for the warm weather, which ever that is, and leave it. We're in West Virginia. We do have cold enough winters, but it seems like it's not going to be very cold blooded at all.

Had to buy a new valve cover gasket. When the engine shuts off it's making a strange gurgling noise that seems to be coming from near the front, any idea what this might be, maybe the power steering or the water pump? I can't hear it myself but I recorded it with my phone and a friend noticed it.

Transmission does have the whine, but I found another thread on here that sort of reassured me to a point. The whine is there for all gears, but my concern is about a clicking that happens in second gear and fourth gear, with fourth being the worst by a fair bit.

Clutch is super grabby, there's absolutely no chance to gradually engage it. Tried adjusting it but that just caused a continual grinding sound until I loosened it up again. I am thinking it needs new hardware but that's on the back burner until we get the engine popping consistently again.

It has new oil in the engine, first reduction gear and transmission and the PTO thing, can't remember what they call that, Power Troll? We flushed the transmission with diesel. That quietened the whine but not the clicking.

It seemed to be running really nicely, we pulled a load of firewood with it up hill in third gear and it was popping super loud and sounded pretty impressive. Hopefully the carburetor cleaning will get us back to that point. Also hopefully it doesn't become a carburetor repair.

The wet lines have a pretty bad leak on the end, so we've just been leaving the pump turned off until we address that.

Question, the center//top link for the 3 point hitch, is there a way I can do that without paying $250 for a new one? It didn't come with one. Can I just buy the end that goes on the tractor and screw that into a normal top link from tsc or something like that? Don't need the knuckle thing on the other end that you can slide down over a ball, a normal one would be fine.

What about the sway blocks for the lift arms? It doesn't have those either, and some of the implements will need that. The disk mower might actually be ok because it has chains that you attach to something in the center where the drawbar is. This doesn't actually have anything we can find to fasten them to, but maybe we can work that out. The blocks are about $60 a piece, and it's not so obvious from the pictures how they mount.

One of the wheels is rusted pretty badly just on the outer rim part, Its not a power adjust rim. No idea what that's going to cost because I haven't figured out what the proper replacement is.

We have a small farm with some cows and we grow and feed round bales. We use slightly more modern tractors normally, but I wanted to be able to play with a 2 cyl and actually still be able to use it. My Farmall M is just not practical and I'm probably going to sell it. It doesn't have the 3 point conversion, and it's a narrow front end. In Wv, that's concerning to us since we do have a lot of hills.
As to the "strange gurgling noise" that's air being drawn through the oil in your oil bath air cleaner, IMHO. You don't hear it when the engine is running but as it slows to a stop it's noticeable.
 
Hey all. new to the forum. Bought a jd620 a while back.

The gas tank had some black stuff and a few tiny pebbles in it that kept getting into the sediment bowl assembly, so we kept having to unscrew it and clean it out. The stuff wasn't just getting into the bowl but getting hung up on the inlet. Well one of the times we had it off, with my brother trying to clear the crud out while I was using a finger to keep as much gas in the tank as I could, when we put it back together we appear to have gotten the carburetor this time. It only fires on both randomly. The one cylinder runs reliably but the other one is coasting usually. If I hit the throttle the one runs all by itself until the rpm is at max and then maybe the bad one will help.

If I turn the power screw all the way out I have a little bit more throttle response but it's still lousy, about 10 or 12 pops to go from idle to full speed. It was 4 or 5 before. I tried to adjust the idle screws, but if I'm running just on the right cylinder it runs ok, and I set the sweet spot while it was at around 300 rpm, but it won't start on the left plug only. I set it to where I thought it was helping the right one the most just with both plug wires on, but meh. Already put the electronic ignition on because we were having issues with the points system anyway and I want to farm with this some so I'm looking for all the power and fuel efficiency I could get.


So guessing the carburetor got plugged. Will be taking it off at some point soon. It ran super nicely before that when ever the sedimant bowl assembly wasn't plugged off. We had the hood off and the gas tank out and got it mostly clean. It still has black marks in it but we can't get them off. Tried putting brake cleaner on a rag on the end of a stick, the rag turns black but it doesn't change anything in the tank. It's back together but it'll have to come off again eventually because we forgot to run the wire for the fuel sending unit, which we did verify to be working. Our best guess is the black stuff in the tank is the gasket from the sending unit. I bought a replacement for that, it was just a powder when we took the unit off the tank, pretty bazaar.

Exhaust manifold had a pretty bad crack in it and the gaskets were blown out on both sides, so I managed to find a new one at tractorpartsasap.com for $150. Intake was good, so I didn't want the close to $300 kit that had all of it. But I did buy a new heat exchanger, and it's leaking a tiny bit of air around it at max rpm, you can feel it puffing air on your hand if you hold it above the exchanger. Is this normal, and can water get in there and possibly break this one too? The way I have that exchanger now, the word "hot" shows on the left side, does that mean it's for hot weather or for keeping the engine hot? I'd probably just set it for the warm weather, which ever that is, and leave it. We're in West Virginia. We do have cold enough winters, but it seems like it's not going to be very cold blooded at all.

Had to buy a new valve cover gasket. When the engine shuts off it's making a strange gurgling noise that seems to be coming from near the front, any idea what this might be, maybe the power steering or the water pump? I can't hear it myself but I recorded it with my phone and a friend noticed it.

Transmission does have the whine, but I found another thread on here that sort of reassured me to a point. The whine is there for all gears, but my concern is about a clicking that happens in second gear and fourth gear, with fourth being the worst by a fair bit.

Clutch is super grabby, there's absolutely no chance to gradually engage it. Tried adjusting it but that just caused a continual grinding sound until I loosened it up again. I am thinking it needs new hardware but that's on the back burner until we get the engine popping consistently again.

It has new oil in the engine, first reduction gear and transmission and the PTO thing, can't remember what they call that, Power Troll? We flushed the transmission with diesel. That quietened the whine but not the clicking.

It seemed to be running really nicely, we pulled a load of firewood with it up hill in third gear and it was popping super loud and sounded pretty impressive. Hopefully the carburetor cleaning will get us back to that point. Also hopefully it doesn't become a carburetor repair.

The wet lines have a pretty bad leak on the end, so we've just been leaving the pump turned off until we address that.

Question, the center//top link for the 3 point hitch, is there a way I can do that without paying $250 for a new one? It didn't come with one. Can I just buy the end that goes on the tractor and screw that into a normal top link from tsc or something like that? Don't need the knuckle thing on the other end that you can slide down over a ball, a normal one would be fine.

What about the sway blocks for the lift arms? It doesn't have those either, and some of the implements will need that. The disk mower might actually be ok because it has chains that you attach to something in the center where the drawbar is. This doesn't actually have anything we can find to fasten them to, but maybe we can work that out. The blocks are about $60 a piece, and it's not so obvious from the pictures how they mount.

One of the wheels is rusted pretty badly just on the outer rim part, Its not a power adjust rim. No idea what that's going to cost because I haven't figured out what the proper replacement is.

We have a small farm with some cows and we grow and feed round bales. We use slightly more modern tractors normally, but I wanted to be able to play with a 2 cyl and actually still be able to use it. My Farmall M is just not practical and I'm probably going to sell it. It doesn't have the 3 point conversion, and it's a narrow front end. In Wv, that's concerning to us since we do have a lot of hills.
Wet lines I assume are hydraulic lines. There are square profile rings at each end that are easy to replace if they are leaking.
 
lot of good responses already. Thanks. About the top link for now, admittedly I haven't tried it yet, but dad insists the holes on the tractor are smaller than category I pins are for that normally on our other machines. They're about the diameter of an AA battery I feel like. Are we missing some kind of extra bracket? We have 4 sets of holes but they're all pretty close to the rear of the transmission, so any top link that's not super thin around the front ball seems like it will be interfering with the transmission.
 
lot of good responses already. Thanks. About the top link for now, admittedly I haven't tried it yet, but dad insists the holes on the tractor are smaller than category I pins are for that normally on our other machines. They're about the diameter of an AA battery I feel like. Are we missing some kind of extra bracket? We have 4 sets of holes but they're all pretty close to the rear of the transmission, so any top link that's not super thin around the front ball seems like it will be interfering with the transmission.
The top link holes are 3/4". The bottom lift arm holes are 1 1/8".
 
Welcome to this forum
Concerning grabby clutch I'll advise to remove clutch pully which requires a drive disk to be pulled off splined end of crankshaft. Then put grease on toggles & dogs plus packing bearing located in pully housing with grease
To add to Tx Jim’s reply- I have a 520 that the clutch was either engaged or not. No way to make an easy start. We removed the pulley assembly and the bearing was shot. A new bearing, toggles and dogs (since it was all apart) and all is great again. Good luck.
 
This is supposed to be a picture of the top link hookup on this tractor. The top two holes measure about 11/16th inch, the bottom two do measure around .75. Is this normal?
 

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Not sure what it is you want to hear. That is a top link mount that likely has wear in the holes that were used most.
We're trying to figure out how to use a normal top link here. The holes are too small although .75 inch in the bottom two might work. The top two are just over half an inch. One of these days I'm going to make sure I can't just shove a normal cat I top link pin through the holes, but they do appear too small.
 
Don't know about the hole sizes, but the reason for the different holes is to change the sensitivity of the draft control. The draft control is used on things like a fully mounted plow for a consistent depth. When the plow starts getting harder to pull it pulls down on the center link harder which then pushes a piston that is internal to the powertrol. The piston pushes oil to the rockshaft circuit which then automatically raises the implement slightly.
 
We're trying to figure out how to use a normal top link here. The holes are too small although .75 inch in the bottom two might work. The top two are just over half an inch. One of these days I'm going to make sure I can't just shove a normal cat I top link pin through the holes, but they do appear too small.
You're overthinking this "problem".
 
You need a toplink with a cast hinge piece on the tractor end View attachment 4546
Thanks for your reply and the pic, but can't make out the tractor end well enough. When I google top link with cast hinge I believe I'm getting the same 250 and up top links like I get when I put into the steiner website, or on yesterdaystractor.com tractorpartsasap.com etc, that I have a Jd620 and then find the top link. They have an end that goes on the tractor, (a lot of dollars), a center link body (a lot of dollars), and a hook end (yet more dollars), or a complete kit for somewhere never less than $250. People here were saying that I can indeed get a top link from the local farm store and not have to pay that premium. My goal is to not spend $250 to by a dang top link, is that a possibility?

Sorry if it seems like I'm overthinking this. We don't know anything about John Deere so we have to learn as we go. Until we learn, we don't understand where we're missing the obvious things. We just know what we want to accomplish but not quite how to do that until we do.
 
Ok. A cat I top link pin does fit in all of the holes, sort of. Our pin might be too long though, because we can't insert a pin on the right side due to, well what ever that thing is, and on the left the transmission housing bulges out slightly so there's a bit of an angle. The bottom two will work just fine but if we want the top one for no draft sensitivity we'll need to figure out something else, hopefully just a shorter pin will work. The first pin we tried has a rather wide diameter collar around the head of it and wouldn't go in any of the holes. We did have a much narrower one here that goes into the bottom two just fine but the top two, while the holes are big enough, the angle of the pin cannot be straight so while it goes through the left hole it can't line up with the right hole. Any idea if a Pin for Jd620 specifically is designed to be able to use the top two holes and not be interfeared with by the transmission housing? I suppose a pin that has to be, well, pinned, on both ends instead of just the one, so it doesn't have a head, might work too.

Anyway thanks all. next priority is the poor running. I have a recommendation here to try moving the spark plugs to make sure the problem doesn't follow them, I will try that. Just for fun, if it'll let me I'm going to attach a short audio recording of the engine idling on just the right hand cylinder. I had the throttle blade tied down against the idle speed screw as the manual we have says to do so the governor couldn't compensate and make it so I couldn't hear the sweet spot. As a result, upon starting the engine rpm came up very slowly since the governor couldn't open. I was adjusting the right hand cylinder, turned it in until it went to quit and then turned it back out until it was the fastest.

I recorded that with my Galaxy s21 in my fanny pack, it Since that was on my belly it was almost touching the engine at about where the valve cover is, so it's loud and you can hear every little click from the push rods and whatnot. I shall try to make an actual video at some point.
 

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Sway blocks are very simple and easy to make. I made a pair for my 630 several decades ago. Used scrap material on hand. I use the common farm store top links. The "gurgle" is normal when you shut down a 2 cylinder Deere. Have you tried switching your spark plugs from side to side? Sometimes the problem follows the spark plug. You have a lot of issues going on. I would focus on one at a time, pecking away as the list got smaller. Welcome to the forum. I think you'll enjoy your 620, and you'll know a lot about it when you get it going.
Ok, so you're spot on with the spark plugs. It was not wanting to run just on the left hand plug. Today I swapped them between each other, and now it won't start on just the right one. It runs fine on just the left one, and I was able to adjust the idle jet thing on the carburetor for that side, it was slightly too far out.

Now that we think about it, the electronic ignition kit calls for specific plugs to be used with it, so that may be an explanation. I'll buy a set, probably can actually afford it since there's only two of 'em, lol!
 
edit: Sorry about this and the next comment, I meant to edit this one but I must have hit reply, and it showed my message already typed in so I thought I was editing. For the full content, it's probably best to skip this message and expand the next message instead.


Ok, so you're spot on with the spark plugs. It was not wanting to run just on the left hand plug. Today I swapped them between each other, and now it won't start on just the right one. It runs fine on just the left one, and I was able to adjust the idle jet thing on the carburetor for that side, it was slightly too far out.

Now that we think about it, the electronic ignition kit calls for specific plugs to be used with it, so that may be an explanation. I'll buy a set, probably can actually afford it since there's only two of 'em, lol!
Ok two spark plugs. Auto Zone didn't have the ones to match, but they cross referenced and got NGK, $11 for the pair. Gapped to .035. I feel like the service manual says to gap to .030, but the ignition kit says to gap them by .003 wider, or something along that line. Does anybody know the values off-hand?

It runs fabulously, but it's stopping the starter cold every time. The only way to start it is to hold the starter switch when it stops so that it spools up again and then it'll have enough rpm to start next time around. We turned the distributor as far counterclockwise as it'll go without starting to run poorly. We tried revving it up to near max and setting the timing by ear there, but then it wouldn't do low idle, it just shut down completely and we had to hunt the distributor to get it started again. I want to believe the auto advance for rpm is working simply because of how loud and sharp it gets when it's at high speed idles. I don't know how to test it.

As a reminder, this is electronic ignition, eign 18 from external_link, and it has their recommended 55k volts coil and their recommended graphite plug wires. Right now, it's running as smooth as you could ask. It puffs more quietly to itself when idling and gets super loud and sharp at high idle. It doesn't smoke and it's so consistent in firing it sounds like it's the diesel version for all that. It takes throttle from slow idle 375 rpm (tac doesn't work yet) to max (guessing pretty close to 1000) and reaches that in only 5 or 6 loud pops. The only concern is the starter being stopped. If I lean on the starter with the ignition switch off it turns it over just fine. With ignition on, it always stops the starter almost as soon as I press the switch, and I'll never get it started if I'm not smart enough to figure out to hold it to push through that and get it spun up for the full 700 degrees of rotation or what ever so it can power through the next time around.
 
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Ok two spark plugs. Auto Zone didn't have the ones to match, but they cross referenced and got NGK, $11 for the pair. Gapped to .035. I feel like the service manual says to gap to .030, but the ignition kit says to gap them by .003 wider, or something along that line. Does anybody know the values off-hand?

It runs fabulously, but it's stopping the starter cold every time. The only way to start it is to hold the starter switch when it stops so that it spools up again and then it'll have enough rpm to start next time around. We turned the distributor as far counterclockwise as it'll go without starting to run poorly. We tried revving it up to near max and setting the timing by ear there, but then it wouldn't do low idle, it just shut down completely and we had to hunt the distributor to get it started again. I want to believe the auto advance for rpm is working simply because of how loud and sharp it gets when it's at high speed idles. I don't know how to test it.

As a reminder, this is electronic ignition, eign 18 from external_link, and it has their recommended 55k volts coil and their recommended graphite plug wires. Right now, it's running as smooth as you could ask. It puffs more quietly to itself when idling and gets super loud and sharp at high idle. It doesn't smoke and it's so consistent in firing it sounds like it's the diesel version for all that. It takes throttle from slowest idle perhaps 375 rpm (tac doesn't work yet) to max (guessing pretty close to 1000) and reaches that in only 5 or 6 loud pops. The only concern is the starter being stopped. If I lean on the starter with the ignition switch off it turns it over just fine. With ignition on, it always stops the starter almost as soon as I press the switch, and I'll never get it started if I'm not smart enough to figure out to hold it to push through that and get it spun up during the full 700 degrees of rotation or so enabling it to power through the next time around.

It doesn't smell what I would think of advanced. It doesn't have the awful burn-your-eyes sooty smell that sticks to your clothes. It did have that before we messed with the timing although it was hard to make it out over the other smell of the new exhaust manifold baking all the oils off of it.
 

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