i opened my mouth and got another job, like i really needed one lol, this one is cleaning up a large gently sloped hilside, it had about 6 inches to a foot of pine needles, on it, ive been working on it with a chainsaw as one of the wanna be foresters did a thinning project in the area i say wanna be as i used to do this too before i got so busted up, he left all his stumps 8 to 12 inches out of the ground, a no, no, also his equipment, studly new dodge pickup nice new gooseneck trailer about 2 sizes too large for the truck new skid steere with a grapple rake, and... thats it other than 2 gentlmen from "south of here" with chainsaws, no chipper, no log truck so he can sell the marketable timber to the 4 sawmills in the area, no dump truck to haul off the chipps which he can also sell, he has the brush which includes the marketable timber cut into 4 foot lenghts piled along the road 8 feet high for 800 yds, hmm.. but what this is about is the needles im thinking about using a old horse drawn dump rake behind a tractor the rake is sitting on the neighbors place complete with modifies hitch for a tractor i think he was using it into the late 70's , and i think with a little tinkering i can get it going it looks in decent shape for its age, wonder if it will have enough pressure to pull the needles, anybody tried it? i dont want to use my landscape rake as that will remove everything and leave large dirt scars and a big mess, and i got to reseed this area too