Patching a tire side wall

[old]

Well I have a few tires that would be good if it where not for a cut in the side wall. Well I tried a old tool I have had for years on a tube and a cold patch. This tool gets real hot and clamps down tight. Well put the cold patch on a piece of inner tube and clamped it down and let it heat for about 15 minutes. The patch is now on good and I didn't use any glue. Well now the question. Do they make some sort of liquid rubber that I could maybe put in the cut and then heat it up with this tool to fix a side wall cut?? I would also use a boot on the inside but would like to close up the hole on the out side also.
Thanks
Hobby farm

 

[Duner Wi]

Old: I use 3M 8609 windshield install urethane to doctor sidewall holes . Does not use the heat you speak off. Don't forget a big boot or stick a whole bias ply tire in there with the beads cut out and sliced cross ways to fit. Really bald tires seem easy to work with. Probably only use on SMV. Good luck.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Qld They used to have a raw rubber that came in strips. You could fill the holes with it, then clamp your heater on it and let it cure,then buff off the extra on the outside and boot the inside.

 

[old]

But where would you find that stuff. I know I can't take a tube and cut it and make it work just tried that to see if it got hot enough to melt part of a tube to another part of a tube. I have a few very good looking tires that have side wall holes and I sure would like to be able to save them, what with the price of tires now days
Hobby farm

 

[Duner Wi]

Tire recapper maybe.

 

[DickL]

I have seen a bad cut tire patched with a tractor tire side wall cut to fit over the cut on the inside and a bunch of carriage bolts put from the inside out. Fender washers and nuts on the outside. Looked kinda tuff but lasted for years. You have to be able to take a bunch of crap from every one that sees it because you are going to be teased. Teasing might be easier than the cost of buying a replacement tire if the funds are low.

 

[Leland]

They section tires like that ,but I would not trust a patch especially if there is a lot of weight or speed involved .

 

[Iowa_tire_guy]

A tire recap shop would have pieces of uncured rubber around that you need. They don't have a very long shelf life though.

 

[dave guest]

Hey Old, have you got one of the old hot patch kits? Patch has gunpowder or something you light and wait for it to burn, then cool off. Got er done. Worked good back in fifties. Bought from Western Auto, I think. Jack up car, run over rim to break bead, pull tube partially out, do the hot patch, 200 strokes with hand pump and scram.

 

[old]

No this is a tool you plug in and it gets hot, very hot. Almost enough to melt the tube. I played with it all after noon and even tried to use a part of a tube to path a tube and even got it to stick if I let it heat for 30 plus minutes.
Hobby farm

 

[old]

Well these are tractor tires so weight and speed do not come into play plus a blow out on a tractor is no big deal other then the pain of fixing to tire

 

[old]

I've seen them before also but, since I have this tool and it still works I want to make it do what it did years ago and I know there has to be a way to do it. I just need the info on how to and where to get the stuff I need. I have already found I can cut a patch from and old tube and patch a tube if I play with it enough. So if I can do that there has to be a way to patch a tire and fill in the gaps to boot

 

[Jim in Ma.]

We had a Farmall 140 once, I ran over a sharp rock and cut the sidewall pretty bad. It was almost a new tire so dad took it apart =with another tube and a piece of truck mud flap over the cut on the inside. We ran it that way for another 5 or 6 years.

 

[jose bagge]

I have seen a sidewall patch "bolted" in as well! Worked for a VERY long time!

 

[jose bagge]

I have seen a sidewall patch "bolted" in as well! Worked for a VERY long time!

 

[Iowa_tire_guy]

I don't think it is quite as easy or as cheap as you think it is but here is a link to get you started.

http://www.myerstiresupply.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/pdfcatalog/index.html?E+scstore

What you are wanting to do is called "section repair" that is listed in the lower left side.

 

[paul]

You are looking to vulcanize new uncured rubber on to the old tire.

It's an expensive process, used to be more common.

--->Paul

 

[old]

Well I figure I have the tool so I want to try to find a way to use it

 

[Mel in SW Iowa]

My grandfather, who died in 1963, farmed 160 acres
of rowcrop in NW Missouri until 1961 with a Farmall Regular with a sidewall cut almost from the bead to the tread. He patched it in 1948 with
a piece cut out of a bald tire bolted on the inside with carriage bolts and on the outside with a 1946 Missouri license plate. As long as his low dollar repairs lasted, yours should last
forever!!!

 

[Larry59]

Why don't you sale one of them 30 something count tractors I seen at your house and buy a new tire. shessssssssssssssssss ha ha ha

 

[trucker40]

If you ever saw a section repair they weave cord back together in bias ply tires then cover it with that rubber some way and cook it in a oven.If you ask a recapper thats old enough to remember how to do that,he can tell you about it.Back in the 80s it was cheaper to buy a new tire than have it done sometimes,depending on how long it would take to fix the sidewall.A little cut would have a big patch.Plus if it was close to the bead they wouldnt even do it.That was Bandag back in the 80s.Since most everything is steel belted now they might be hard to find a place that does it.I bet someplace does.Its not cheap.
I remember they had vulcanizing patches,but I think they were for tubes.I think they even had vulcanizing machines,but never saw anybody use one.They were popular during WWII because you couldnt buy tires and somehow they could take 2 tires and glue them together and make 1.Trouble is they didnt go very far.

 

[old]

You know me Larry if I can save something and make it usable again I will and thats what I'm trying to do plus its fun to try. LOL
Hobby farm

 

[trucker40]

Here is a place you might try Cahill Manufacturing.877-922-4455.

 

[Janicholson]

Putting a mechanical repair on the slice is probably a good Idea. I have sewn a sidewall with stainless welding rod 1/16" diameter through drilled holes. Then filled the remainder gaps with urethane door and window sealant. With a good patch (as you put on already) it should hold for the purpose, and be less conspicuous than bolts. Space the holes no more than 1/2" apart, and put the loose ends under the stitches. The black sealant hides the steel pretty well. JimN

 

[Janicholson]

Putting a mechanical repair on the slice is probably a good Idea. I have sewn a sidewall with stainless welding rod 1/16" diameter through drilled holes. Then filled the remainder gaps with urethane door and window sealant. With a good patch (as you put on already) it should hold for the purpose, and be less conspicuous than bolts. Space the holes no more than 1/2" apart, and put the loose ends under the stitches. The black sealant hides the steel pretty well. JimN

 

[old]

That phone number doesn't work

 

[trucker40]

Sorry,I didnt try to call them.Here is a phone number from Bandag 800-523-6366 prompt 6.Wont find out much there,but I called them and it works.I will keep on looking.A few years back I was looking for an odd sized tire and saw where some place in South Dakota or somewhere remanufactured tires the size I needed.There were other places too.Maybe even ST.Louis?What you need is called live rubber.They use it in recapping process.Bandag are too big headed to talk to common people it seems like.Maybe if you can find a dealer and act like you are going to buy some big truck caps if he knows might tell you how it works.I know they have the stuff to do it with and the good ones can fix a tire like that and you cant hardly tell it.It still has to be cooked in an oven the way they do it.Somebody had to start somewhere,so that machine you have might work on a farm tire.

 

[trucker40]

From what I read it makes a lot of difference where its cut at.Thats on tires for going down the highway and I can see how that needs to be done right.They do make patches for punctures in the sidewall.They cost,but not nearly as much as a section.Looks like retreading tires is another one of the jobs thats been shipped overseas,and the ones still here wont sell you anything maybe.There is a patch that has a plug made on it that might work for a puncture.A cut is different.The trouble is that in the sidewall it twists more than the tread and whatever you use will come off after a while unless you weave cords back in before you patch it,or bolt something in there like others have said.You might be able to buy those cords somewhere.They probly make liquid rubber and I know they have live rubber that they heat in an oven to cure.The problem is that it might be hard to get it unless you know somebody that recaps tires.I dont think they want to sell it to the public.I could be wrong.

 

[trucker40]

SORRY UNDER MY SOME GUY WENT BY,2 5THS OF ETAH ANOL

 

[Anonymous-0]

The only way I have had a sidewall repair work in a bigger, moderate speed tire (tractor front, or implement wheel), is to use one of gemplers blow out boots on the inside, and a chafer tube and another tube inside of that. By the time you go to all that trouble, if its a standard size, it's cheaper to find a good used tire! Was at an auction one time, saw a farmall A with the first steel-belted radial ever made. It was a tri-rib tractor front that had split down the middle, the farmer had repaired it by lacing bale wire around the tire, and through the slots in the rim! You could see the tube, but it was holding air!