sigourney pull

[36 A]

is the pull 16 , 17 of march ?

 

[Anonymous-0]

15th-bs session at the bowling alley,16th- antique up to 6000 and classic to 5500, 17th -classic 6500 to 8500 and all weights of open, no antique classes beyond 6000

 

[36 A]

Ok have to get friday off work .

 

[F20Puller]

The pulling is great @ sigourney, the BS session at the bowling alley is always a good time as well. Time to get in gear to make sure I have something ready to pull!

 

[Anonymous-0]

I hear there's an F20 in sd for sale! The owner said he'll even deliver it!

 

[Anonymous-0]

that F20 is coming anyway the poor old thing has to ride with an ugly old case it will probably never be the same I hope they dont cross breed

 

[Anonymous-0]

Gee John that really hurts! If one were to introduce some Case genes into an IH the end result would be drastically improved! A mechanical hybrid so to speak! Come to think about it, all of those Case parts (engine, front/rear axles, hood ect.) adapted to an IH rear end made a Magnum!

 

[Anonymous-0]

Is it going to be a load of green red rustcolor

 

[88 PULLER]

Really sad...don't think we will get to go this year. One of my favorite pulls.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Since when was a cummins motor a case engine? And IH already had the magnums designed and ready to produce

 

[Travis M]

IH had the magnum designed

 

[Travis M]

IH had the magnum designed with the cummins motor, case axles, case hoods, coupled to the IH rear end before the merger? I would guess maybe IH had a magnum designed, but not the one we ended up with. While I might be consider bias towards case, I've operated both and when you put the 70 and 90 series cases against the 66 and 86 series IH, hands down the case is a nicer better operating tractor.

 

[Anonymous-0]

IH had the magnums ready to roll out before the merger. There isn't any case parts on them. If case was so great, then why did the stop making tractors when they bought out IH? Case couldn't build a quality product , so they bought a quality product.

 

[Travis M]

Yes IH had such a quality product that they went out of business. There is most definitely case influence in the Magnum. Have you used both machines. I just loved using the hard to shift 1086 we had

 

[Anonymous-0]

There was an artical in heritage iron about how IH already had the magnum ready to roll. Now did case have some influence? If by putting the cummins motor in was their influence then yes they did, but I was told by an CIH mechanic that the chassis is almost the same as a 5488. The reason why IH went bankrupt was because IH tried to go hard in yellow equipment, and cause of a union strike they never got over. I've actually never ram an IH newer than a 06 series, however, I have put some hours on a 830,1570, 2290, 2590, 4490, and 4690 tractors . My impression with them is that they have poor shifting, steering, brakes, hydraulic controls, and hydraulics, and absolute dogs. Maybe it was just the tractors I ran, but that's my experience. I will say though Travis, your Case is coming together nicely, and looks like it will be pretty slick when you done.

 

[FactoryFarmer]

(quoted from post at 14:11:20 02/20/13) There was an artical in heritage iron about how IH already had the magnum ready to roll. Now did case have some influence? If by putting the cummins motor in was their influence then yes they did, but I was told by an CIH mechanic that the chassis is almost the same as a 5488. The reason why IH went bankrupt was because IH tried to go hard in yellow equipment, and cause of a union strike they never got over. I've actually never ram an IH newer than a 06 series, however, I have put some hours on a 830,1570, 2290, 2590, 4490, and 4690 tractors . My impression with them is that they have [b:a9966ebcc9]poor shifting, steering, brakes, hydraulic controls, and hydraulics, and absolute dogs[/b:a9966ebcc9]. Maybe it was just the tractors I ran, but that's my experience. I will say though Travis, your Case is coming together nicely, and looks like it will be pretty slick when you done.

From the IH tractors I've ran you pretty much described every one of them in that sentence.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Well I guess if Case's and IH's are like that, then John Deere
tractors really are the nicest to run

 

[Anonymous-0]

The 3.9, 5.9 and 8.3 engines were devoloped by Consolidated Diesel Corporation which was a joint venture between JI Case and Cummins. Study your history.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Hey Einstein, Why do Case 1370 hubs fit a Magnum if it doesn't have Case axles, Case knew bettre than use those worthless wedge lock wheels IH had, look at a Magnum rear wheel, it is the same hub as a Case,the CDC engines Case/Cummins were being developed long before Case saved the IH name from dissapearing , where did the flip hood come from? Oh, a 90/94 series Case, look at the front end, it definately isn't IH, they were so stupid they couldn't figure out that tapered splines on the steering arms are a better idea, the dash cluster sure looks similar to a 94 series Case,the powershift was under developement by IH but they didn't have enough money to complete it until the merger, open your eyed and then try to tell me there are no Case parts in a Magnum, BTW-My 1370 I had would show any 1486 where the bear $hits in the woods! Maybe you should change your havndle to "Oh crap my torques out Again!"

 

[Anonymous-0]

you think a 504 is a dog? I will put it up against any engine in that era. It will use less fuel and make more torque than anything. Try starting out on the roar in roadgear with a 466 jd in road gear and 1000 bushels of corn hehind,a 400series binder motor is a little better, why did IH go broke? It started with the 560 and ended with the 86 series, you know , the one with the doors on backwards where you have to climb over the shift levers to get in

 

[Anonymous-0]

yeah nothing runs like a deer, to the fuel barrel!

 

[Anonymous-0]

Nothing like a CASE of bad judgement, lol

 

[Anonymous-0]

Big deal axles being the same size. Massy Harris 33axles are the same size as 560 axles. Cummins did work with case, your right, but if case motors are so great then why didn't they put them in the magnums? Case dealer around us said they was a 2500hr engine on average is why. Funny how everybody that thought thier case was so great doesn't run them anymore. I was not impressed with a 504's power. And for every 1370 there WAS out there that was supposed to be the most powerful tractor on earth according to you case guys, there's a 5488 that's STILL running 225-250 at the pto, and would walk all over ANY case you put up against it. Your gonna have a hard time convincing me that a case was a great tractor, and my family used to run all cases

 

[Anonymous-0]

You idea of road gear and mine must be different, cause all the cases I've drove wouldn't allow you to take off in the highest gear, because when you push the clutch in the transmission goes down to 1 if its in a higher gear, making in impossible to take off in a higher gear.

 

[Travis M]

To find a 5488 running or not around here, you would have to search long and hard and i bet you wouldn't find one. There are several 90 series case tractors still in use, we have one of them. I will agree that the rear end is IH, but thats it. I like the magnums. We have had several of them, and have Mx series magnums now. I didn't like the 86 series tractors. I thought they were poorly designed and hard to run, but thats my opinion for what its worth.