What do I have?.

[Kcaj]

I got a ford 600 yesterday and when I got home
I found out that it came from the factory with out
Any hyd. Or 3-point
I did not notice it because it had a Wagner loader
On it ,and a barrel with concrete in it for weight
On the draw bar
So I though there was a 3-point.
Nogt even a plate were you put it in gear
I got it for$500.00 as a fixer up
Can any tell me when and why it was made Thais way?
Please comment

 

[Sean in PA]

Sounds like you've got a 620 model. The 600 was a series, not an individual tractor model. There were several models within the series, and the middle digit changed to tell you which specific model it was. The differences between the individual models were the transmission, PTO and 3 point lift options.

The 620, 630 and 640 all had the 4 speed trans and the 650 and 660 had the 5 speed trans.

Within the 4 speed models, the 620 had no 3 point lift and no PTO, the 630 had a 3 point lift but no PTO, and the 640 had both. The PTO on the 630 and 640 were trans driven (non-live).

The two 5 speed models, the 650 and 660, both had PTO and 3 point lint. The difference was that the 650 had trans driven (non0-live) PTO and the 660 had live PTO.

Lots of folks bought the 620 or 630 because that was all they could afford, or because they had no need for the 3 point lift or, in the case of the 620, the PTO. If they only ever used it for drawbar pull-behind implements then why pay for a 3 point lift that they're not going to ever use, or some folks bought them and used them specifically for loader work and never planned to use the 3 point or PTO. The loaders were available with their own front mount pumps, and the pump for the 3 point was inadequate in terms of flow volume for acceptable loader use, especially if you were going to be using the loader all day every day.

 

[reb-in-pa]

Just behind the starter, on a flat spot on top of the transmission case should be stamped (recessed) a model number and a serial number. The model number will be uppermost. If indeed, the tractor is a 600-series, the first of three digits will be a "6", indicating that it has a 134 cid engine, smaller differential, smaller gas tank, and one or two other differences between 600 and 800 series machines. The last number should be "0" indicating that it was a hundred series machine built from late 1954 to 1957. The second digit could be anything from "1" through "6."
A "6" would indicate that it has a 5-speed transmission with hydraulics and live PTO. A "5" indicates 5-speed trannie with hydraulics and non-live PTO. Numbers "1" to "4" indicate 4-speed trannies with no live PTO but with different combinations of hydraulics and other accessories, like a 3-point hitch. The exact factory configurations are available on John Smith's website, but they sometimes varied because folks would delete or add accessories, particularly guages, either new or after purchase.
If you have factory hydraulics (not the pump added ahead of the crankshaft to run the loader, but a pump located on the right rear side of the engine), you might be able just to add the three-point and its controls affordably. If you need to add the pump, manifold, all the lines, top deck, etc., you've just bought either a loader, a tow motor, or a parts tractor. But, at $500, you haven't lost a thing if you just part it out.

Good luck.

Ray

 

[8N'r--WI]

There was an "800" for sale a few years ago in Milwaukee. Owner (cemetery) said they had bought it new and used it for digging graves and when the backhoe finally wore out decided to sell it.

It was an "820"-----no PTO or lift arms.....first and only one I ever ran across....

Tim

 

[NoNewParts]

The guys have answered your question,
but I'll add that at $500, you can't lose.
Loaders on old Fords are pretty much a one use machine anyway.
So much strain on the front, they are not happy doing regular tractor work.
99% of the time, a counterweight is tying up the 3-point anyway.
I have a 650 with a loader, a counterweight on it that is chained up all the time,
and has never been off, in all the time I've owned it.

 

[Texas!]

And since the 620 had no PTO it didn't get a Proofmeter (tachometer) either. If you don't have a PTO that needs to turn at a specific RPM then you don't need a tach.

 

[Kcaj]

I found the serial n.
It is 620
63301
The reason I got it so cheap is because he took out the steering unit it was shot and does not have it so I
Am looking for the hole steering unit
Any one know were I could get one that's complete
Also I would like to sell loader it has a front pump
It's a heavy duty unit s.3760
Thanks for the help
Jack

 

[souNdguy]

620 with loader for 500$

nice!

 

[Anonymous-0]

Why would you want to sell the loader off of it? You will then have a tractor without PTO, without 3-point, and without loader, and without steering. What could you use it for. Seems if you replaced the steering, you could make a good little loader tractor out of it, but without a loader, you haven't got much. Tom