why use john deere oil

[Cumminsdeere]

This is why

 

[Tx Jim]

I've used JD oil in my 4255 since '93 and it still runs strong with over 10,700 hrs with no overhaul.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Sew John Deere can get more money from you.

 

[Mike Aylward]

Same results here, Jim. It's good oil. I buy it in bulk and use it in all the tractors, combines, mowers and trucks. I get it delivered to the farm for an "in store" price. Works for me in all ways. Mike

 

[Anonymous-0]

I've had the same results from marathon oil.The operator has more to do with it than the oil.

 

[Mike Groom]

You realize that John Deere doesn't own a refinery?Look at the specs on the oil EP,AP,etc.their oil is made by one of the larger company's,just like Harley Davidson,you don't have to buy their expensive oil either,some of the other brands are rated much higher for wear and lubrication and breakdown.

 

[Tx Jim]

(quoted from post at 07:43:24 03/18/14) You realize that John Deere doesn't own a refinery?

Yes I realize that fact but that doesn't limit it from being good oil. It's the same scenario with CIH,NH,Kubota,Challenger,etc as none own a refinery to my knowledge.

 

[Greenday]

lol

 

[randy hall]

when they paint the reindeer on the can it turns into 'super oil'.

 

[Mike M]

Why not ?

Many times it is on sale in the spring at a decent price.

No one is forcing anyone to use it or not use it do what ever you want to do.

 

[Tx Jim]

(quoted from post at 08:49:58 03/18/14) lol

How many engines do you have that have 10,000+ hrs on them with no overhaul that have routinely had the engine oil changed religiously @ 150 hrs of service intervals??? None I'll bet!!!!! :lol: LOL :lol:

 

[Freddy]

I went to the John Deetre Expo and they were testing major oils. None I seen were better than Deeres oils. Although they were running the tests and they dont make the oils. Some oils were just as good and just as expensive.

 

[Freddy]

I bet that is the same process that Yamaha supers it oil.

 

[coonie minnie]

10000 is nothing, Jim. I have several 10000 plus.
Longest I went on one was 14000, that was a 4240.
When overhauled, bearings were really pretty good,
but the valves were shot.

Oil used was and still is Mobil 15W40, and changed
at 200 hour intervals.

 

[Tx Jim]

coonie minnie
I agree but I've also witnessed and read about many engines that were overhauled at the 5000-6000 hr range.

 

[tim s]

As we all Know Deere does not own a refinery,,they contract out to reputable companys to obtain the oil that they want to market, and there are several very good oils on the market. Knowing what works out good for us and sticking with it helps to keep these old Gal's running a long time..

 

[53 super H]

Just remember JD oil is made by the LOWEST bidder by their specs.

 

[NEIADan]

Don't know what they use now but in the late 70's and early 80's every Waterloo tractor left the factory with Shell Rotella. I have found that the synthetic oil has been a good investment. In this cold climate it sure has helped for easier starting. In my N-14 Cummins our cold weather starting has lowered by 20 degrees with Synthetic. Definite improvement on our Deere engines with quicker oil pressure on those cold weather starts even when we are plugged in that oil is cold

 

[Anonymous-0]

I think the oil produced for John Deere is a high quality engine oil. I think there are other brands out there which are equally as good, too. I certainly would not feel very comfortable picking up and using a budget priced, not commonly known, brand name in my tractors or my vehicles. If a high quality brand was used before my owning a piece of equipment, I generally have continued to use that brand of oil. If I did not know, then I have opted to use my typical brand of oil. There was a comment about engine hours on tractors reaching 10,000 plus without an overhaul. I tend to believe how the tractor was used (or abused) will be rather indicative on how long until an overhaul is needed, as well as how frequent it was serviced and if high quality lubricants were used. I have no complaints on my equipment or vehicles, and I had one car with nearly 312,000 miles on it. I quit driving it because the power steering lines rotted out, the brakes were shot, the A/C lost its Freon, the tires were shot, and the body had lost 300 to 400 pounds on account of salt and rust..................otherwise I would have driven it more. Other than all those problems, the transmission was the original and the engine lost 1/2 quart between oil changes every 3000 to 3500 miles.

 

[RandyB(MI)]

Speaking of which!!! The large company I retired from went to urethane paint for their large equipment a few years ago. They put out bids and three major paint mfgrs bid. The spec was a top drawer two component , one coat urethane. Awarded the bid to the incumbent company but only if they beat the others by "X" amount per gal. They went back and reformulated the "good" urethane and came up with a hybrid and even named it after the company and copyrighted the name. ( Morthane) My paint dept tested the original (nice) and then the new "hybrid". Very dissapointing in appearance but it met their bean counters criteria (CHEAP ) and they ALWAYS win in situations like this and probably oil too

 

[buickanddeere]

Purchasing parts and lube at your JD dealer . Reduces the chances of being stuck with counterfeits.

 

[dieselfume]

I used to be one of those guys who ran JD oil because I thought it was better. Then I went to college for Caterpillar and took their failure analysis classes. (why parts break).

I can tell you that JD oil is nothing special, except that it costs $97 per pail when valvoline 15/40 is $55.

After overhauling more than 50 truck engines in my time at Caterpillar, I can tell you that the guys that change their oil regularly are the guys with clean and strong engines. Doesn't matter so much what you run as long as you change it often. Carbon is what fouls oil long before the additive package is gone. Now the new manufactures are making oil that has less zinc in it, but has an engine that dirties oil faster and runs hotter temps than before. not to mention that the oils are running so much detergent that it smells like my wifes laundry soap. which, is also bad for the additive package of the oil (zinc).

The worst engines I've ever opened up had been running shell rotella exclusively. the cleanest engines I've seen ran Delvac or Delo 400.

I buy my oil at the beginning of the year when they go on sale. this year I got my years motor oil for $11 per gal (castrol GTX 15/40), the year before I ran Car Quest (valvoline) 15/40 for $10 per gal. I change the oil every 200 hours and have had Zero engine trouble. and don't expect to have any....

Keep buying that expensive dealer oil. Someone's gotta keep them in business!

 

[larryanderson]

We use JD bulk system and it usually is much cheaper than 5 gallon lots.Cen-pe-Co Archer,Rotella are all excellent oils and we feel oil is a cheap investment.I have farmed for over 55 years and have never had to overhaul a tractor except if JD had a recall like our 8630.We always changed oil at 100 hours and just finally extended it to 150.When I buy tractors I try find ones that have been taken care of.We also have only replaced one clutch and that was a rear main seal problem.

 

[willie in mn]

Slightly OT, truck use, not tractor, but oil related. I admit that over the road is not running constant full power demands like heavy tillage, but the big hills on west coast give a good workout.
Last place I worked had about 1000 rigs on the road, 100 or so of them dedicated to hauling Cummins/Onan products, so Boss speced Cummins 14 liter engines.
When I started they did oil changes at 12,000 miles. Then it crept up, eventually chassis lube at 20,000, drop the oil at 40,000. Oil samples were lab tested for iron particles, soot, etc & reported to Cummins. They gave the okie-dokie & kept up the 500,000 warranty. For tax/depreciation purposes & remaining warranty, the trucks were replaced at just under 500,000 miles.
I personally had to add a gallon at about 25,000, then not add again before oil change. Am not aware of any engine failures during my years working there.
To translate miles to hours- with idling time for heat/cooling during rest periods, it averages out to close to 35 mph. So 40,000 miles equals roughly 1,100 hours between oil changes. Only real cold starts were if taking a few days off at home.
Since I retired they have been installing aux power units for heat,cooling to cut down on idling time/fuel use.
Sorry for the long post.
Willie

 

[tim s]

Road tractors see about the same kind of use as a large farm tractor, long hours of use and a big long grade every now and then, and idle time is never good on ether of them...My old N-14 pulling my equipment trailer has 805,000 miles on it, used it to haul grain for years before retiring it to the flat bed, been using Shell Rotella,,never had the pan off of it, one of my old shop pick ups has 309,000 on an old 302 same oil,,it's on the other side of good,,but still runs nice...

 

[AJB-830]

At the JD Day at our local dealer, they showed some pictures of an 8400 that required a total engine over-haul after 5,000 hours. Engine had black crude all over everything. This farmer used cheap oil and non-JD filters. Then they told us about another farmer who has 30,000 hours on an 8400 and it still hasn't been touched. But this farmer only used JD oil and filters and changed oil every 200 hours. They had this tractor in for a transmission over-haul but the engine was still good. So I quess it pays to use JD oil & filters over the long run. I only us JD oil in my JD tractors. Al

 

[Freddy]

castrol and valvoline are good oils and usually are way more expensive then you have listed.

 

[Freddy]

Isn't that a testimony to all oil companies, car companies, truck companies and the list goes on....the lowest bidder will always come first.

 

[tim s]

AJB-830,, you were a witness to a sales pitch...

 

[MikeinKy]

I used to haul tanker loads of John Deere oil. Unless they have changed again, it used to come from Chevron in Louisville, Ky. Before that it was Connaco in Pittsburgh.

 

[AJB-830]

Tim, I agree. They were pushing JD oil and filters. But I did talk to the shop manager a couple of days later and he said the story was true and gave me the name of the person who had the 30,000 hr 8400. Al

 

[dieselfume]

My local NAPA has a sale on a different 15/40 every month. prices can vary from $9.99 to $14 for different oils.

Most parts stores have oil/filters sales at the beginning of the year. thats when I buy my HYD and motor oils. This year I got my HD oil from Harvest King in 5 gal pails for $34/gal, and my motor oil Castrol GTX 15/40 for $11/gal

 

[bg/mo]

and if i remember right the new 15-40 is part sythentic isint it????

 

[bigboreG]

I drive truck for a living. Peterbilt with 625 hp C 15 CAT. We run United Oil 15-40, really good oil IMO. Drop oil every 12,000 miles. Use CAT filters every time. We replaced the oil cooler one weekend and afterwards on our road test the freeze plug blew out on the oil cooler, lost ALOT of oil in a small amount of time. We couldn't get United oil over the weekend so we put JD 15-40 in it. Bad idea. Used two gallons of oil in 8000 miles. We dumped oil at 10,000 and put United back in it. Engine had never used oil before, not one drop in 12,000 mile intervals. It sure did when we put the JD oil in it. ! It hasn't used any since we went back to the United. Very strange, I have used JD oil in many engines, both tractors and trucks. Never had a problem like that. Was it just a freak deal? I don't know. Maybe Caterpillar engines just don't like JD oil lol.

 

[Cumminsdeere]

Boy did I stir up somethin this time didn't I?? I'm switching from John Deere plus 50 II to shell rotella t6 in tractors and trucks sure hope this doesn't happen