Ford 3230

[2nb]

Look for numbers and info stamped in the body of the remote couplers on the tractor and web search them to see what they are.

Did that, I didn't find anything other than markings for lift and drop. I'll look again.

 

[Lynn Patrick]

I think I may be confused as to what you are looking for. If it has lift & drop on it it sounds like a hydraulic valve. My 2110 has this valve - yours may look different:

Or are you looking for the remote conectors? They look something like this:

 

[chevytaHOE5674]

"ISO 5675" is the spec for a universal 1/2" body ag quick coupler. Can either have a ball or nipple tip. Will fit into about 99.9% of modern ag equipment. No secret industry magic is going on it is just a universal item that has about 483 different model/part number for each of the 483 different manufactures.

 

[Jim.ME]

(quoted from post at 13:27:03 03/24/23)

Look for numbers and info stamped in the body of the remote couplers on the tractor and web search them to see what they are.

Did that, I didn't find anything other than markings for lift and drop. I'll look again.

Post a picture (pictures) of the couplers on your tractor, or whatever you are trying to mate to, so we can be sure we are all talking about the same thing.

 

[2nb]

Post a picture (pictures) of the couplers on your tractor, or whatever you are trying to mate to, so we can be sure we are all talking about the same thing.

Pretty sure there is nothing particularly special about them as they are a standard item as far as I know. Here's a shot from the owner's manual (too tired to go out and snap a pic today):

New question. How do I get the right paint for this tractor? I tried two different Ford Blue from Tractor Supply, but this is obviously not the one:

And got a really disappointing gauge cluster from ^^ YT:

The overall quality is really poor so I don't think I'll be ordering a replacement.

In other news, I bought a somewhat rough box blade and restored it:

 

[2nb]

(quoted from post at 17:53:29 03/24/23) "ISO 5675" is the spec for a universal 1/2" body ag quick coupler. Can either have a ball or nipple tip. Will fit into about 99.9% of modern ag equipment. No secret industry magic is going on it is just a universal item that has about 483 different model/part number for each of the 483 different manufactures.

Good info, thanks.

Why is there sometimes a ball and sometimes a nipple then? (and two different sizes, at that)

 

[Destroked 450]

Nipple style flows more fluid, not a issue for yours but that s the type I d get

 

[showcrop]

That cheap Tractor supply enamel is obviously the correct shade. Your tractor's paint is faded. But don't worry your TSC enamel will fade a lot faster so in two years it will match.

 

[2nb]

(quoted from post at 16:50:37 03/25/23)

That cheap Tractor supply enamel is obviously the correct shade. Your tractor's paint is faded. But don't worry your TSC enamel will fade a lot faster so in two years it will match.

I seriously doubt it. It would be one thing if it matched on paint from the bottom of the tractor, untouched by UV rays. But it doesn't. It doesn't match any part of my tractor.

 

[chevytaHOE5674]

Like said the nipple style flow more oil but for that tractor either will be just fine. Grab whatever ones they have in stock.

 

[2nb]

My hydraulic top link arrived so I set out to get hoses and fittings. First I went to NAPA and asked if they sold tractor hydraulics.

"Like what?"

"Hoses, fittings, adapters, etc"

"Well I can MAKE a hose..."

"Okay, I know what I need as far as specs and dimensions"

"No. I need to see the old one."

Curious, a store that will only sell things you already have. Getting a bad vibe from the guy I left it at that. Next stop, Rural King. They were pretty wiped out of fittings, but I was able to find:

- 2 Hoses
- 2 Pioneer couplers, nipple style

From there I went to TSC and they had:

- 1 1/2" female NPT -> 3/8 male NPT
- Very expensive thread sealant that looked important.

Okay great, so in theory I'm lackingone 1/2" female NPT -> 3/8 male NPT adapter, but these parts at least let me start thinking about mocking things up. I get home and start to piece things together and observe the following:

- One of the hoses I bought was used
- Neither hose is long enough. Unfortunately this will be trial and error because using a garden hose to mock things up doesn't work due to bend radiuses
- Only one of the pioneer couplers can screw onto my hoses. It looks absolutely identical in every way. Further observation shows that it's not a 1/2" NPT but another similar size. Another shopper or employee had re-stocked it behind the other one I bought on the wrong hanger
- The one 1/2" female NPT -> 3/8 male NPT I did get doesn't screw onto my hoses. No idea why.

The saga continues.

 

[Jim.ME]

No one here can see what you have, so it is hard to help you with this. Posting the part numbers, along with the descriptions, of what you bought, and where, one might be able to look them up and see if there is a reason things don't match up. Of course, if someone opened packages and mixed things up, all bets are off. What type and size are the ports on your cylinder?

As for the guy at NAPA. Yes, he should have made them with the hose and fittings you wanted. I am guessing you aren't a regular they know. He may have been reluctant to make a hose by description because he has been burnt before by making a hose from the description given by a walk-in. However, what if he had made the hoses just as you described, and they were too short? You would own them, period. At least you should be able to return the premade ones, get longer ones to try again, and not be out any money. If there is no space issue I would go a bit long on the hoses, rather than try to get the "prefect" length.

 

[2nb]

(quoted from post at 15:57:13 03/28/23)
No one here can see what you have, so it is hard to help you with this. Posting the part numbers, along with the descriptions, of what you bought, and where, one might be able to look them up and see if there is a reason things don't match up. Of course, if someone opened packages and mixed things up, all bets are off. What type and size are the ports on your cylinder?

I feel that. I also think that posting a bunch of incorrect part numbers isn't going to help me or anyone else perusing the thread. Let's try to keep the focus on parts that work together, not whatever mismash of crap I'll have to return.

Question: has anyone here _actually_ installed a hydraulic top link _by themselves_ on a Ford tractor and can offer a list of parts that worked _for them_?

My cylinder is 3/8 NPT. So, gathering from the wisdom on this thread, it should be:

1/2" pioneer -> 1/2" hose -> 1/2" NPT female to 3/8 NPT male

x2. Right? riiiiiiiiiight? This seems really simple on the surface.

As for the guy at NAPA. Yes, he should have made them with the hose and fittings you wanted. I am guessing you aren't a regular they know. He may have been reluctant to make a hose by description because he has been burnt before by making a hose from the description given by a walk-in. However, what if he had made the hoses just as you described, and they were too short? You would own them, period. At least you should be able to return the premade ones, get longer ones to try again, and not be out any money. If there is no space issue I would go a bit long on the hoses, rather than try to get the "prefect" length.

You're not wrong. But it's bad customer service to punch down on a customer. I would have rather walked out of there with a set of nice hoses that were too short but a happy opinion of my local NAPA guy and came back

 

[chevytaHOE5674]

If the cylinder has 3/8 npt ports then i would use 3/8 npt hoses (cheaper and they flex a whole lot better) whatever length you need to allow full range of motion. Then I would either buy 1/2" pioneer male couplers with 3/8 npt female threads or 1/2 npt female with a simple 3/8F to 1/2M bushing.

So parts list would be:
2x 3/8" hoses of desired length
2x 1/2" pioneer quick couplers
2x 3/8"f to 1/2"m bushing

 

[showcrop]

You seem to have a difficult way of going about things. It is hard to see how it is such a problem.

 

[Jim.ME]

I believe you would accept the fact that you made a mistake on the hoses and not blame the guy, which is as it should be. I have actually seen the other side of it where a guy came lugging new hoses, they had made (while he watched) to the length he specified, and demanded the guy swap them for longer ones. He didn't see why they wouldn't just take them back and sell them to someone else.

As for your plumbing with 3/8 NPT ports on the cylinder I would use 3/8 hoses made with a male 3/8 NPT on one end to thread directly into the cylinder ports and a 3/8 NPT x 1/2 NPT reducing bushing on the other end to thread into the 1/2 female NPT pioneer couplings, fewer joints and just reducing bushings needed that way. You do not need swivel adapters as the 3/8 hose can screw right into the cylinder and the rest of the parts are not held so they can be freely turned to assemble. If you need the hoses to lay alongside the cylinder, use rigid 3/8 NPT hydraulic street ells in the cyinder ports before attaching the hose

 

[chevytaHOE5674]

If you end up having someone custom make you hoses then use 3/8" hose and have 3/8" MNPT on crimped one end and 1/2" MNPT crimped on the other. Then no other bushings or anything are needed.

 

[2nb]

This is solid info, thanks a million! 3/4 the recent posts are extremely helpful and on point. I will follow back up.

 

[2nb]

So parts list would be:
2x 3/8" hoses of desired length
2x 1/2" pioneer quick couplers
2x 3/8"f to 1/2"m bushing

I think this is the winner. So question- the bushing is to adapt the 3/8 hose to the pioneer coupler, yes?

 

[chevytaHOE5674]

Correct the bushing will be 3/8" on the female side and 1/2" on the male side.